truth dancer wrote:It is weird that women are indoctrinated to believe this is appropriate and it is even weirder that husbands go along with a guy discussing his wife's choice of underwear with her. I mean REALLY....
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So I wonder what is at the heart of this. Is it because garmies have a different definition than "underwear" to a TBM woman? Are they not really thinking of them as underwear? When I went from garmies to Hanes (which I love), it didn't even phase my sons. They didn't say, "why are you wearing underwear, dad?" They didn't say a word. They probably just thought, "Oh, he's wearing underwear that looks different now... kind of like the underwear we have..."
So maybe the reason this doesn't phase TBM women is because of the context it is asked in. They remove any personal feelings from this. If the bish asked if she was wearing panties or not it would freak her out (obviously). On the other hand, the bish asks about garmies and the garmies is non-personal when spoken of within the confines of a church building. Amazing how different the two following statements sound:
"Are you wearing garments night and day?" "Are you wearing panties night and day?"
Wow.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
I agree. Not only is it unhealthy for a man to discuss his sex life with the neighbor guys but maybe he shouldn't discuss it with a woman in a room with the door closed like women are expected to do with the bish.
To clarify... a Bishop and his counselors are typically neighbor guys. ;-)
Because they claim to have some sort of authority doesn't mean a thing. They are guys living down the street who are asking a married woman about her underwear. It is disgusting and should never happen.
LDS women are encouraged to go to their bishops (a neighbor guy), to discuss problems with their marriages. It is sooooooooooooooo wrong on so many levels.
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"The search for reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings for it destroys the world in which you live." Nisargadatta Maharaj
Dr. John Parkinson, a civic and religious leader in the perfectly suburban town of Fairfield, told women they needed pelvic exams. Long exams. Several times a week. For years. And they believed him.
Dr. John Parkinson, a civic and religious leader in the perfectly suburban town of Fairfield, told women they needed pelvic exams. Long exams. Several times a week. For years. And they believed him.
If you've got some time, it's worth reading.
It does take a while to read, but...Holy Shhht!!!
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
Along those lines, there was also John Story of Lovell, Wyoming in the 1980s. He was Baptist, but Lovell is 50% Mormon and his victims were mostly Mormon.
Then there's LaVar Withers of Rexburg, Idaho.
Lucinda ~ You might enjoy this thread. I'll try to go back to posting installments soon.
"It seems to me that these women were the head (κεφάλαιον) of the church which was at Philippi." ~ John Chrysostom, Homilies on Philippians 13
Lucinda wrote:You are not going to believe this--of my best friends went for her stake-level TR interview last year. The dude asked her if she wears her g's night and day. She replied that she tries. He said to her:"you are not to remove the garment unless a priesthood holder tells you it's ok.".
Whether he was referring to himself or her DH, the guidance seems pretty strange.
my wife to DH: Honey, I forgot to ask before you left for work and left me with these 20 kids, would it be all right if I take off my G's so I can shower?
Raguel wrote:my wife to DH: Honey, I forgot to ask before you left for work and left me with these 20 kids, would it be all right if I take off my G's so I can shower?
Have you tried showering with them on?
You may just want to consider it. :) I'm not a big fan of wet T-shirts on a man but maybe Lucinda is. I would bet that wet garment tops are pretty savory for the eyes. hmmmm... I'm going to suggest that to my wife tonight.
Anyone else around here tried a wet garment top party?
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Zeezrom wrote:Anyone else around here tried a wet garment top party?
I'm game for anything. Unfortunately though, I threw all of mine out. And no, I didn't cut out the Masonic markings and burn them in the sink like the lady in the temple told me to do.
just me wrote:It does take a while to read, but...Holy Shhht!!!
I know. I thought I would glance over it again after posting the link, but I ended up reading the whole thing again. There's so many levels of weirdness...it just gets odder and more disturbing, and when you think it can't get any worse...it does. The whole thing about the different factions in the stake is really disturbing.
Oddly, I actually knew one of the victims in the story. They moved to my ward in Northern California a few years after the events in the article. I was friends with their kids, and had no idea what the parents had been through!
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