Toe above water, and unworthy authority

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_sock puppet
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Toe above water, and unworthy authority

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Would God not recognize a baptism if the person's toe remained unsubmersed and no one noticed?

Suppose that Jim, a Mormon bishop, performs numerous ordinances (baptisms) and priesthood ordinations. Later it is learned that Jim was unworthy, having committed adultery a week before being called to be a bishop. Since he was not worthy of the authority granted to him, are all the ordinances and ordinations null and void, and must be done over so that they're done authoritatively?
_Ray A

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The way it was explained to me is that God still recognises the ordinance, even if performed by someone unworthy (or the unworthiness was later discovered). Jesus is also supposed to have come through the line of Judah.
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Ray A wrote:The way it was explained to me is that God still recognises the ordinance, even if performed by someone unworthy (or the unworthiness was later discovered). Jesus is also supposed to have come through the line of Judah.

So how could the Catholic Church not be performing saving ordinances authoritatively?
_Ray A

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sock puppet wrote:So how could the Catholic Church not be performing saving ordinances authoritatively?


From my perspective neither has God's authority. Both claim to be the only true church, which reminds me to ask why me........
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Kind of along those lines: do we really need to make the poor priest w/ bad reading skills repeat the sacrament prayer over and over for missing one word?? Is God really going to care if we save the poor kid's self esteem? I'm sure those baptismal covenants are still renewable!
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