The impact of Jaredite scholarship is broadening with every passing year. In religious scholarship, the significance of bees among the Jaredites is now being explored alongside its meaning to the ancient Egyptians and Greeks. See this lovely article by Andrew Gough, entitled, "The Bee: Part 2 - Beewildered."
One of the more peculiar links between the Bee and religious orders is the modern day Mormon Church. Founded in 1830, the faith is largely based on the Book of Mormon; a scripture from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Mormon Church is based in the United States of America and its Book of Mormon features the Jaredites, an enigmatic people who migrated to North America from ancient lands during the construction of the Tower of Babel.
The Book of Mormon also features “Deseret”, meaning Honeybee, and the Jaredites were said to have led the Bee on a series of migrations across the ancient world. Intriguingly, the Eastern Egyptian Dessert, as discussed in Part 1, is one of the regions that the migrating Jaredites may have traveled through during their journey westwards from the Tower of Babel, as its landscape is dotted with Bee symbolism and boats. It’s also interesting that the Red Crown of Egypt was called “dsrt” and that E.A. Wallis Budge called the Red Crown of Lower Egypt ‘Deshret’ in his book, the Hieroglyphic Vocabulary to the Book of the Dead. Could both words refer to the same root, the common Honeybee?
The Mormon religion was founded in Utah, and Brigham Young – the first governor of the territory and a leader in the Latter Day Saint movement – had hoped to name the state ‘Deseret’ due to his belief that the Honeybee was auspicious and that it represented industry and stability. Although Young was unsuccessful in his quest, Utah nevertheless adopted the Beehive as its symbol and remains the ‘Beehive state’ to this day. Bee symbolism can be found throughout the state, especially in Brigham Young’s home in Salt Lake City, a residence known as the Beehive House.
What a trove of learned lore this generous catalog of Jareditical erudition is! I saw the recent article in the Interpreter, but had not seen the splendid work of our own Zeezrom. I myself intend to make a modest contribution to the "Gazele/am" problem.* I hope to use it as writing sample should a visiting assistant professorship in Jaredite and Nephite linguistics ever open up in your illustrious department. Until then, I have much to chew on here. Thank you!
And Zeezrom, excellent work!
*(in short, it's a Nephite scribal gloss that that idiot Smith misinterpreted as a Jareditish proper noun; this portion of the Jaredite record was originally part of a bilingual teaching text for young Nephite scribes learning Jaredetish, and the bilingual gloss found its way into the textual tradition probably a few generations before Moroni, whose own competence in Jareditish was not great, which is why he left it in the record...it's such an obvious solution yet no one has noticed it).
"As to any slivers of light or any particles of darkness of the past, we forget about them."
There is a water sports catalog pushing jaredite wet suits for both humans and animals because it is well known that the jaredites were frogmen given to navigating by searching for stars from a 4 inch hole in the top or bottom depending on which way is up. These wetsuits were the idea of the brother of jared who made the first one from the skin of a dead alligator who failed to get inside the submarine before it launched. the brother of jared know also a frogman 1 was the only jaredite to go 365 days without taking a crap( coiuld not get out of the wetsuit) but he did weigh 300 lbs including the suit when the submarine barges made landfall. the wetsuit goes for $300 dollars including shipping and a free Book of Mormon with the book of ether highlighted.
What a trove of learned lore this generous catalog of Jareditical erudition is! I saw the recent article in the Interpreter, but had not seen the splendid work of our own Zeezrom. I myself intend to make a modest contribution to the "Gazele/am" problem.* I hope to use it as writing sample should a visiting assistant professorship in Jaredite and Nephite linguistics ever open up in your illustrious department.
Illustrious consul,
SVBEEV!
Thank you for your kind words. Please do submit your article on Gazele/am at your earliest convenience. Indeed, we would appreciate it if you would PM us links to your earlier, groundbreaking work on Jaredite linguistics. Your work is already setting the standard for all future study. Dean Robbers has been promising the Department of Jaredite Studies a new hire. My fingers are crossed that we will have the honor of interviewing you for the position at the next International Congress on the Study of Jaredites.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
The Jaredites are a people described in the book of Ether (see Book of Mormon: Book of Ether) whose name derives from their first leader, Jared. The Jaredites date to the time of the "great tower" mentioned in the Old Testament (Gen. 11:1-9), which was built in or around Mesopotamia. Led by God, the Jaredites left their homeland for a new land somewhere in the Americas, and there they established a kingdom. They grew to be a numerous population with kings and prophets, and, like the Nephites after them, were eventually annihilated by internecine war evidently sometime between 600 and 300 B.C. Their story was recorded by their last prophet, Ether. Around A.D. 400, the last Nephite survivor, Moroni 2, abridged the record of Ether and appended his summary to the account of the Nephites that had been prepared by his father, Mormon. Although the record is brief, it hints at an epic genre rooted in the ancient Near East.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Personally, I am impatiently waiting for a Jaredite boat/barge/submarine replica to be built and placed next to the Noah Ark replica in Kentucky.
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2 different threads same day 2 hours apart Yohoo Bat 12/1/2015
Tator wrote:Personally, I am impatiently waiting for a Jaredite boat/barge/submarine replica to be built and placed next to the Noah Ark replica in Kentucky.
We have a 1/100th scale replica in the courtyard of the Brutus Memorial Rectory at Cassius University, Tator. I am surprised you have missed it, considering how much time you have spent on our campus. Drop by anytime!
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
Tator wrote:Personally, I am impatiently waiting for a Jaredite boat/barge/submarine replica to be built and placed next to the Noah Ark replica in Kentucky.
We have a 1/100th scale replica in the courtyard of the Brutus Memorial Rectory at Cassius University, Tator. I am surprised you have missed it, considering how much time you have spent on our campus. Drop by anytime!
Sorry Kish even though I have many spudeyes I have missed that. I will drop by on my next visit and see if we can arrange a tour if your busy schedule will allow it. My only defense for this oversight is the first place I go blind is right in the eyes. I wonder what else I have missed on that gorgeous campus.
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2 different threads same day 2 hours apart Yohoo Bat 12/1/2015
I noted in Don's quoting of your catalogue that you list a "Cain as Bigfoot" reference under Ephemera. Given the importance of the category, I wanted to bring to your attention a relevant document, brought to light by the illustrious Maksutov:
Maksutov wrote:On the Plausibility of Another Bipedal Primate Species Existing in North America
"... a probable case for the species is made by a variety of evidence quite deserving of objective consideration."
I make no claims about the phrase "evidence deserving of objective consideration," other than to note that, based on the number of times an apologist has invoked it on this board while simultaneously refusing to ever actually give any evidence, it may be a coded reference to resources locked in the Wasatch vault. These resources would appear to include real, imaginary and forged* items, an apparently unnecessary distinction as all three categories seem to be used interchangeably.