I Found 200 Domain Names The Church Owns - Listed Alphabetic

[_Kishkumen]

I expected that you'd back up your buddy.

Simon, don't behave like a dillweed. I was warning you from experience. You might have said thank you. Instead you continued to accuse.

[_Simon Belmont]

The website isn't bad, but it could be improved. For instance, one thing a visitor would like to see immediately is a layout of the campus. It's nice that you've got google maps embedded but I've always questioned the real value this adds. A map of the campus that shows buildings, parking, and all the stuff a visitor needs to navigate would be great. Thanks for considering it.

Well, no, it is not as bad as mormonscripturestudies.com, bookofabraham.com, or mormoncurtain.com. Those have to be three of the most atrocious websites ever. Don't you agree?

Old Wilton is quite the straggler eh? How you got that bad boy roped in

Oh jeez. We have four p2p T3s going over there, if you must know. Hope to upgrade to microwaves next year.

-- IP over Sonnet, or by some ancient frac T1/FR build that goes down twice a week?

Uh huh... are you just reading Wikipedia or something? Our ILEC is very reliable with our T3 circuits.

I know these hospitals are slow movers.

It's an old place.

If you tell me you've given all the old Centillions the boot from your IDFs

The only Nortel equipment we have is an old 81C PBX. Yes, it is ancient.

I'll be even more impressed if you've ditched the Banyan Vines

Sorry, I am not old enough, nor have I worked at the hospital long enough to have worked with such technologies. We still had some IPX-type usage a few years ago, but that's pretty much gone, along with our stupid ISDN "backups" that some uppity-up thought would be necessary.

and forced your over-the-hill Schryver types to upgrade their IBM crap

IBM makes excellent enterprise hardware now, Gadianton.

so you don't have to inter-operate with SNA over token ring.

Hahaha, really? Token ring?

And please tell me for this web project that you've at least put a rickety old CSS in front of your web boxes and that you have distributed application/database layers and don't run everything on one or two Pentium II's running Windows 4.0 making calls to itself.

We're slightly more advanced than that.

P.S. Add wiring closet locations etc. to that campus map, thanks in advance;

LOL, okay Mitnick!

[Guest]

Those have to be three of the most atrocious websites ever. Don't you agree?

No. I happen to like all three websites. I think they do well for what they are. And I think it's a real problem that you don't have a site map on your web page.

Uh huh... are you just reading Wikipedia or something? Our ILEC is very reliable with our T3 circuits

I read wikipedia all the time Simon; are you saying that you don't? I highly recommend metropolitan technologies. Have you at least spoken with Verizon about an IP/Sonnet solution? I haven't gone through the trouble to see how far out Wilton is, but if its doable, you're going to love it. Microwave sucks, Simon. If you have either trees or fog, and most people at least have one of the two, you'll soon find out why.

I'm a little confused though about the business need for FOUR T3s out to Wilton. Is that one gigantic bonded PPP link? Good god Simon, if you need a traditional WAN solution, look into MPLS and make your carrier drop off GigE, it will be so much easier to work with; just go with an OC3 anchored by a couple of Steelheads, that ought to scream.

[_Paul Osborne]

Simon,

It may interest you to know that I'm having lunch with Atticus this coming Saturday at 12:OO PM in an artsy part of Dallas.

If he is truly a lawyer (although you deny it) then that fact will be manifest to me. I'll let you know one way or the other. Are you prepared for the outcome?

Paul O

[_Simon Belmont]

Simon,

It may interest you to know that I'm having lunch with Atticus this coming Saturday at 12:OO PM in an artsy part of Dallas.

If he is truly a lawyer (although you deny it) then that fact will be manifest to me. I'll let you know one way or the other. Are you prepared for the outcome?

Paul O

Having lunch with who?

[_Simon Belmont]

No. I happen to like all three websites. I think they do well for what they are. And I think it's a real problem that you don't have a site map on your web page.

Of course you like all three websites. They are anti-Mormon. I should have guessed. There is a site map on the Stamford website.

Uh huh... are you just reading Wikipedia or something? Our ILEC is very reliable with our T3 circuits

I read wikipedia all the time Simon; are you saying that you don't?

Not to sound more knowledgeable than I am, no.

I highly recommend metropolitan technologies. Have you at least spoken with Verizon about an IP/Sonnet solution?

My hands are tied until the middle of next year. The T3s were in place before I became in charge, and at this particular hospital it is a long bureaucratic process to get something that major changed -- a capital project in fact.

Microwave sucks, Simon.

No way. A Microwave will incur an upfront cost but then will save us beaucoup money over the long run. The ROI is less than two years, my friend. We have line of site to the surgery center, and no trees or buildings are in the way. Fog? Where have you been for the last decade? Fog and sunspots are no longer an issue.

I'm a little confused though about the business need for FOUR T3s out to Wilton.

They were in place before I got there. They have to remain there until at least the middle of next year. The WSC has a lot of high tech equipment and someone over there thought they needed 2 T3s, plus 2 more for redundancy. Whatever; next year I will be the hero of the whole campus when I save the hospital tens of thousands of dollars (over the next two years).

Good god Simon, if you need a traditional WAN solution, look into MPLS and make your carrier drop off GigE, it will be so much easier to work with; just go with an OC3 anchored by a couple of Steelheads, that ought to scream.

I don't know what a "steelhead" is, but Verizon has already explained that there are no fiber optics that could be used for a link to the WSC. I'm going with the dishes, and they will be awesome.

[_Gadianton]

There is a site map on the Stamford website.

Here is an example of a site map:

http://map.byu.edu/

Please don't accuse me of looking up what a "map" is in Wikipedia to sound more knowledgeable than I really am. I really do know what a map is because, like IP/SONET, I work with maps regularly.

We have line of site to the surgery center, and no trees or buildings are in the way. Fog? Where have you been for the last decade?

Don't say I didn't warn you. But if microwave is all you can do, then it's all you can do.

Whatever; next year I will be the hero of the whole campus when I save the hospital tens of thousands of dollars (over the next two years).

You mean like Satan would look like a hero to all the children of men, with all the glory and honor going to himself? Perhaps for our upcoming essay contest, we should make the topic "humility".

I don't know what a "steelhead" is, but Verizon has already explained that there are no fiber optics that could be used for a link to the WSC. I'm going with the dishes, and they will be awesome.

So your four DS3s are copper? RS232's and all? Take a pic, that's some old school crap right there my friend!

Well, good luck with the dishes.

[_Simon Belmont]

Here is an example of a site map:

http://map.byu.edu/

Please don't accuse me of looking up what a "map" is in Wikipedia to sound more knowledgeable than I really am. I really do know what a map is because, like IP/Sonnet, I work with maps regularly.

Oh, I misunderstood. You were talking about a campus map. I'd like an interactive one as well... I'll see how much that would cost.

Don't say I didn't warn you. But if microwave is all you can do, then it's all you can do.

Okay, I give up... what do you do for a living, without getting too specific (wouldn't want to compromise your identity).

You mean like Satan would look like a hero to all the children of men, with all the glory and honor going to himself? Perhaps for our upcoming essay contest, we should make the topic "humility".

LOL, it is okay to be confident and even cocky once in a while!

What do you think about Tsunami microwave links?

So your four DS3s are copper? RS232's and all? Take a pic, that's some old school s*** right there my friend!

Well, good luck with the dishes.

I am honestly not sure what they are after they leave the main campus... but come to think of it, it seems likely that Verizon just didn't want to sell us any fiber. They're making too much money off our four DS3s! I'm dropping that next year though.

[_Gadianton]

The map doesn't necessarily have to be highly interactive, but just show the buildings etc. The lack of a map is impeding my ability to ask intelligent questions about your campus network. But if I were a patient of the hospital, I think it would be nice to have an idea of what building I need to go to before driving there.

what do you do for a living, without getting too specific

I am dean of a university, Cassius University, that is. Though, I do have a computer networking hobby. I cabled together a couple of computers here in my office years ago with thicknet and just recently got them connected to the internet after migrating away from LANtastic.

LOL, it is okay to be confident and even cocky once in a while!

You'll have to point out the paragraph in President Benson's talk, Beware of Pride that allows for cockiness.

it seems likely that Verizon just didn't want to sell us any fiber. They're making too much money off our four DS3s! I'm dropping that next year though.

Verizon is almost as evil as Mopologetics, so I'm happy to hear that you are sticking it to them next year. If I have some time Tomorrow, I will take a peek at what metro solutions are available if any in your neck of the woods. Time Warner might have something out that way. Just in case you need a plan B, or even for your other satellite facilities if not Wilton.

[_moksha]

You've reached a whole new level of creepy, stalkerish behavior.

It is more than creepy. It is like the reenactment of some BYU Security Forces training scenarios for their black ops search and destroy missions.