Any moral implication regarding marijuana use?

[_Joseph]

Come on kid, marijuana is no more a moral issue than is going to Starbucks for a cup of coffee or McDonalds for fries and a coke.

[_Blixa]

Hmmm...I wonder if gramps' response is a sort of performance piece on the effects of pot smoking...

I don't have time right now to respond fully, alvatra, but I'll try to come back later and give you a thoughtful reply as well as explain why I don't exactly see it as moral issue either---a kind of complex question because what constitutes "morality" is a much battled-over terrain.

I just wanted to pop in now to say I'm glad to see you're sticking around and have started another thread. That first one got kind of rocky, but one's entrance into a new and unfamiliar message board is often a bumpy ride. If you're willing to try again, then I'm willing to try, too.

[_EAllusion]

I regard it as morally permissible*, but generally a bad personal choice.

*There are some circumstances it wouldn't be of course. I'm not saying it's Ok to be blowing smoke in an infant's face.

[_Yahoo Bot]

The Church does not consider WoW violations as a moral issue.

As a libertarian, I oppose regulation of pot.

However, I do have strong feelings about friends my age, and children of friends, who are hooked on the weed and I can see for myself how it affects their lives and performance. Never once for the good. Always for the bad. I've heard it said it isn't addictive but I don't believe it.

In my day, pot was a different experience, apparently. A roach on a clip was about it, and it contained leaves and seeds. Today, it is much more concentrated and taken in a bong, which is something I never saw as a kid. It is not a safe thing.

[_Jeneum]

The Church does not consider WoW violations as a moral issue.

As a libertarian, I oppose regulation of pot.

However, I do have strong feelings about friends my age, and children of friends, who are hooked on the weed and I can see for myself how it affects their lives and performance. Never once for the good. Always for the bad. I've heard it said it isn't addictive but I don't believe it.

In my day, pot was a different experience, apparently. A roach on a clip was about it, and it contained leaves and seeds. Today, it is much more concentrated and taken in a bong, which is something I never saw as a kid. It is not a safe thing.

It is perfectly safe. The only dangers that come with marijuana use is the harmful effects of smoking...which can almost be negated by using a vaporizer. Obviously our lungs are not made to inhale or process large amounts of burning plant matter.

Also, those predisposed to psychosis should not use weed. Weed does not cause psychosis, but it will exacerbate it. Although there is a lot of wonderful work going on right now to make a cannabidiol based antipsychotic, as it has been shown that CBD is a better antipsychotic than the drugs we have on the market now. It's the THC that causes all sorts of psychosis issues, so yes, in that regard, the stronger weed of today may be more dangerous than the weed in the past. It is not, however, dangerous for those who are not predisposed to psychotic issues.

Marijuana can definitely be addictive. Not physically, but psychologically. It's sad that people become that wrapped up in it, instead of realizing what it is: a God-given method to probe the psyche, elevate consciousness, and relax when needed, IN MODERATION.

I honestly think I would've gone crazy during grad school without weed. It just helped me wind down at the end of the day and clear my mind, without having to turn to nasty alcohol like most people.

[_Tchild]

simple question.

Marijuana is not a moral issue. It may be a personal or social issue, but morality plays no part of the equation as to whether marijuana is legal or illegal.

[_zeezrom]

The Church does not consider WoW violations as a moral issue.

It isn't clear. Maybe we can list what Mormon moral values are. We can refer back to President Hinckley on this (I was in High School when he said this):

“Every year substance abuse claims younger victims with harder drugs. A third of high school seniors get drunk once a week. The average age for first-time drug use is now thirteen years old.” ...Now I know, as do you, that there are millions of young people in this nation and in every nation who live wholesome, good lives and who are ambitious to make something of themselves. But no one can blink at the fact that in this land, and in other lands across the world, there is an epidemic affecting the lives of millions of youth. It is a sickness that comes of a loss of values, of an abandonment of moral absolutes.

This is an article in which we are being taught about morality but the transgressions of such are not made very clear. What is immorality? Later on, he implies that the following are considered immoral:

1. Becoming involved with pornography to any degree (that might include bra ads in the Sunday paper)
2. Letting down the bars of sexual restraint
3. Not restraining, subduing, or keeping under control your emotions that stir within you which make boys attractive to girls and girls attractive to boys
4. teenage pregnancy
5. cheat in school
6. fail to do any of those things which do not square with the precepts, the teachings, the principles which the God of heaven (might that include Wow?!!!! I don't know - he is not clear)
7. watching too much TV

(on a side note, He warns 1 through 3 will destroy us. Do you see why seeing bras made me think I was destined to end up in hell and also often felt I might not make it to retirement - die young?)

[_Yahoo Bot]

It is not a moral issue. One can get a temple recommend by admitting to a WoW violation in the prior week but committing to quit. Of course, evidence of an addiction might discourage a recommend issuance, but only because there is an indication that the commitment isn't going to be followed.

[_EAllusion]

Marijuana also causes memory loss, slowed reaction time, apathy, and is mild-to-moderately addictive in a certain % of the population of users. Overall, it's not that dangerous of a drug, especially if used infrequently. It's certainly less risky than alcohol, but as someone who advocates its legality I am annoyed by those who downplay its risks.

[_zeezrom]

It is not a moral issue. One can get a temple recommend by admitting to a WoW violation in the prior week but committing to quit. Of course, evidence of an addiction might discourage a recommend issuance, but only because there is an indication that the commitment isn't going to be followed.

What is your basis for the statement "It is not a moral issue"?

Is it based on whether you can pass the TRI or not?! That is the litmus test for a moral value?

What if you broke one of GBH's other items on his morality list? What if you cheated on a test at school (i.e. University or MBA school) one week prior to the TRI. Would that prevent you from going to the Temple? Is cheating a moral issue?!

You are a lawyer. Come up with a decent argument please.