"For I was poor and living in a motel, and ye kicked me out"

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"For I was poor and living in a motel, and ye kicked me out"

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LDS Church buys Ogden motel, closes the doors

By Scott Schwebke
Standard-Examiner staff
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Thursday, December 9, 2010 - 10:55pm

http://www.standard.net/topics/lds-chur ... oses-doors

OGDEN -- Residents of the Ogden Lodge were scrambling to find a new place to live Thursday as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints finalized the purchase of it and plans to demolish the motel to pave the way for future development.

Brandi George, 29, said she and her 9-year-old daughter, Kailee, have been living at the Ogden Lodge since September and learned only last week they would have to move by today.

She spent Thursday packing her sparse belongings in preparation for relocation to the Ogden Rescue Mission.

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"I'm trying to keep my head up," George said stoically. "Things will get better."

But George became emotional recounting how, out of necessity, she ended up at the 79-room Ogden Lodge at 2110 Washington Blvd. She previously lived at the St. Anne's Center, but hasn't been able to find an apartment because of a felony conviction.

"No one wants to rent to someone who has a felony," George said. "No one wants to give you a chance."

The LDS Church intends to finalize its purchase of the Ogden Lodge in the next few days and will demolish the hotel soon, Scott Trotter, a spokesman for the church, said in a prepared statement.

"The property is of interest to the church because of its proximity to the Ogden Utah Temple and the church's well-established support of downtown redevelopment efforts," he said, adding that plans for the land have not been determined.

The Ogden Lodge purchase is not connected to a major renovation at the temple scheduled to begin in the first half of 2011 that may take two years to complete, said Trotter.

The LDS Church did not disclose the purchase price for the motel and its accompanying property. The land encompasses about an acre and is valued at $341,480, while the motel building is worth $638,413, according to records with the Weber County Assessor's Office.

Mike Sayssan, who has owned the hotel for a decade, said he has been negotiating with the LDS Church for about a year and is unsure of future plans for the property. He declined to reveal the purchase price.

He also said Ogden Lodge residents were informed several weeks ago that the motel would be closing.

The LDS Church understood that residents were properly notified about the motel's closing, said Trotter.

"The church has been assured by the seller that occupants were given sufficient time and assistance to identify new accommodations and that they would be treated with dignity and respect as they sought new housing," he said.

Ralph Janes, 65, who has lived at the Ogden Lodge for five months, said he's fortunate to have found a mobile home in North Ogden to purchase. However, he doesn't believe it's acceptable for motel residents to be forced to move on such short notice.

"I don't think they treated us fairly," said Janes, adding he learned only last week that the Ogden Lodge would be closing. "They just dropped it on us."

Leslie Chesnut, 70, who has lived at the motel for about a month, said Thursday she isn't looking forward to finding a new place to live and hasn't minded her stay at the Ogden Lodge.

"It's not where you live, it's how you live," she said.
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My favorite thing about this:

The LDS Church intends to finalize its purchase of the Ogden Lodge in the next few days and will demolish the hotel soon, Scott Trotter, a spokesman for the church, said in a prepared statement.

"The property is of interest to the church because of its proximity to the Ogden Utah Temple and the church's well-established support of downtown redevelopment efforts," he said, adding that plans for the land have not been determined.


We don't even know what we're going to do with it yet, but you people need to get the hell out right now so we can tear down the place you've been living because of your limited options.

Just like Jesus would do.
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Merry Christmas, Brandi and Kailee! :-(
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Hmm..
Inasmuch as you have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, you have done it unto me
God has the right to create and to destroy, to make like and to kill. He can delegate this authority if he wishes to. I know that can be scary. Deal with it.
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Re: "For I was poor and living in a motel, and ye kicked me out"

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What responsibility does the Church owe to these displaced people. Have they not been given their week's notice before Christmas? Are there not taxis these renters could call to carry them away right now, so we will be able to let the property sit vacant? Humbug!!!
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Aren't they required to give them 30 days notice or is that only for Apartment and home rentals? If Brandi and Kailee are members of the church the Bishop can help them out with some food and maybe even find a place for them to live. If they aren't members of the church, I think the bishop's hands are tied.
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I think the key thing to keep in mind is that the LDS Church should do no more than the absolute minimum required by law. Isn't that what Jesus taught?

"And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also."

"And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain."

Of course Jesus would want a church that buys up a motel where poor people are living and throws them out on short notice just before Christmas to tear it down for some unspecified business development in the future.

"Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise."

"My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence."
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While we contemplate the restored church of Jesus Christ throwing a 9 year-old girl on the street before Christmas so to make way for some indefinite commercial venture in the future, let's take a look at some of the homes of our recent prophets.

Here is where Spencer W. Kimball lived when he became president of the LDS Church.

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He spent the last part of his life living here:

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From 1978 to 1983, Ezra Taft Benson lived here:

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As the prophet, he lived in this building, which is owned by the Church:

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Howard W. Hunter also lived in the luxury apartments pictured above, as did Gordon B. Hinckley when they were each president of the Church. Before that, Gordon B. Hinckley lived in this house:

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And Thomas S. Monson lives in this house:

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This of course follows a storied tradition, from the Lord commanding His followers to buy stock in the Nauvoo House so Joseph Smith could have a mansion to live in, followed by Brigham Young having among his homes (plural) the Lion House, the Beehive House, and a winter house in St. George.

But by damn, that motel in Ogden has got to go right now!
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Darth J wrote:Here is where Spencer W. Kimball lived when he became president of the LDS Church.

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A modest, regular-looking home.

From 1978 to 1983, Ezra Taft Benson lived here:

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Again, nothing special. A regular-looking home.

Before that, Gordon B. Hinckley lived in this house:

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Again, I see nothing special here. This home, in fact, looks like it is less expensive than the above homes.

And Thomas S. Monson lives in this house:

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Again, a modest regular-looking home. Nothing special about it. Nothing "multi-millionaire" about it.
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DarkHelmet wrote:Aren't they required to give them 30 days notice or is that only for Apartment and home rentals? If Brandi and Kailee are members of the church the Bishop can help them out with some food and maybe even find a place for them to live. If they aren't members of the church, I think the bishop's hands are tied.


The article says that the 9 year-old and her mother are going to the Ogden Rescue Mission. That's a homeless shelter in Ogden, Utah. It's not a given that there is going to be space for them there, or that any space there might be will last long.

And Brandi and Kailee are not the only residents of this motel.

Hey, I know! Maybe these people can move into the Church's new hotel in Hawaii!
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