Too TBM

[_sock puppet]

You are entitled to believe whatever you want to believe. I shall do the same.

Yes, that is something ex-mo's like me and NOMs like you have in common--we don't believe something just because COJCOLDS tells us to believe it. We've both broke free of that yoke.

[_zeezrom]

Let's revisit this idea about church reform (see Tchild's post). The Mormon church cannot exist with a bunch of NOMs. How many NOMs will pay tithing for their whole life? How many will continue promoting the faith promoting myths?

Could the church relax the tithe? The would need to simplify somewhere - less temples? Sell real estate?

[_Inconceivable]

Let's revisit this idea about church reform (see Tchild's post). The Mormon church cannot exist with a bunch of NOMs. How many NOMs will pay tithing for their whole life? How many will continue promoting the faith promoting myths?

Could the church relax the tithe? The would need to simplify somewhere - less temples? Sell real estate?

I think the suits are too proud to admit the myths and take a hit in tithing. They would most likely prefer to run it into the ground.

[_Hades]

Truth seekers will find their way out with or without knowledge of the history. Once a person examines his/her own beliefs, then examination of the beliefs of the tribe is not far behind.

"Things are never what they seem", was the first thought that put me on the path to leaving. I never set out to be an apostate. I held onto Mormonism for as long as I could. I held onto a little thought in the back of my mind that somehow it had to be true. There were crossroads where I knew that I would only be able to hold onto it by turning back. I couldn't do it. That would mean burying my head in the sand. I can't live that way.

Some of you, Lucinda being one, have said that you don't want to pass the illusion onto your children. I feel the same way. I want my kids to be able to seek truth without indoctrination. I don't want them to struggle with shame and guilt. I don't want them to feel a need to judge others according to dogma.

Finding out the truth about the history was just the final straw for me. It's what made me throw it all out. I was already out as far as participation in the church. Had I known the truth from the start I would have thrown it out sooner.

Some people aren't willing to lose family and friends to leave the church and that's OK. Some people are willing. I'm one of those.

[_Polygamy-Porter]

This is how it would go down: I would wear black shirts to church and grow a go-tee. I would sit in EQ and make wise cracks. We would occasionally drink wine and coffee and not listen intently to church leaders. We wouldn't take the prophet seriously. Rather than bear testimony of the rest. gospel I would share funny stories

Damn that sounds about how I was as a member!

[_Polygamy-Porter]

Why Me,

My point is that I am not able to live NOM nor am I able to be a jack Mormon. There is nothing wrong with people that choose that path. More power to them. It doesn't work for me. The point also is that religion really is nothing more than an idea. We make a big deal out of what religion is right when all along it doesn't matter. Sad, really.

For most believing Christians religion is more than just an idea.

It is a way of life.

*snort*

Unless your name is "why me".

[_Lucinda]

I think the suits are too proud to admit the myths and take a hit in tithing. They would most likely prefer to run it into the ground.

This may be a dumb question, but--do they really need our tithing? Don't they make enough money from all of their land, business deals and corporations?

[_bcspace]

I'm beginning to wonder if being too TBM is what lead me to want to make a swift exit when I learned Mormonism truths.

It's possible. Being pharisaical is one of the surest roads to apostasy and such is in evidence here with other apostates.

[_zeezrom]

I think the suits are too proud to admit the myths and take a hit in tithing. They would most likely prefer to run it into the ground.

This may be a dumb question, but--do they really need our tithing? Don't they make enough money from all of their land, business deals and corporations?

That is probably the best question of the year!

We know the suits fear loss of tithing funds but why should they?

[_why me]

It's possible. Being pharisaical is one of the surest roads to apostasy and such is in evidence here with other apostates.

This is true and right on target. I would bet two cents that Lucinda would be the first to condemn me for my less activity in the lds church when she was TBM. I have found that the most hardened TBMs when they take a fall, land hard on the ground.

Most Mormons today are just living life with all its complications and trials and blessings. Hard to define TBM is such life settings.