And this guy is not even a Mormon or a christian????

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Well, as all LDS say, "It's impossible to have virtue outside the LDS faith." Therefore, this man has some sinister motive that explains why they're doing all those good things. Much like I'm told General Authorities and LDS have.

This man is damned to hell and there is no salvation for him. Even his supposed virtue will damn him.

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Jason Bourne wrote:

Yes. Of course. Tithing is for the Church to run the church. If you tithe to whomever you want then the church may not have funds to run. And then they will have to cut more than just janitors.


Why janitors? Aren't they lowly paid already? I think I remember you were a janitor, and may be jesting? In any case, the Mormon Church never reveals where its finances go. Maybe such a revelation would be an utter public embarrassment for a Church that calls itself "The Church of Jesus Christ....", who "had not where to lay his head". Long live Corporate Jesus.
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Ray A wrote:
Jason Bourne wrote:

Yes. Of course. Tithing is for the Church to run the church. If you tithe to whomever you want then the church may not have funds to run. And then they will have to cut more than just janitors.


Why janitors? Aren't they lowly paid already? I think I remember you were a janitor, and may be jesting? In any case, the Mormon Church never reveals where its finances go. Maybe such a revelation would be an utter public embarrassment for a Church that calls itself "The Church of Jesus Christ....", who "had not where to lay his head". Long live Corporate Jesus.

Most of the paid janitor positions have been eliminated already. Most chapels are cleaned by assigned members.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Polygamy-Porter wrote:http://www.wimp.com/wecould/

A guy from India feeding, clothing, and caring for the poor and destitute.

Too bad he isn't a Mormon, LDS PR would make him their new poster boy.



Someone does an amazing work of charity, and you use it to bash on the church.

You are scum.

It seems that PP was offering a comparison-contrast. PP was comparing what the church claims to be (the one true church) and what they do (building shopping malls and high rise condos) and contrasting it to someone who does not claim to have the one truth, nor who is building monuments to capitalism and financial self-preservation.

Simple observation really.
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Polygamy-Porter wrote:Most of the paid janitor positions have been eliminated already. Most chapels are cleaned by assigned members.


I think I remember that from the late '80s. I knew a full time janitor who became redundant. He had to find employment elsewhere when the Church began its "corporate streamlining". You know, "economic rationalism" and all that. Jesus suddenly found something "better". You couldn't tell the difference between the Mormon Jesus and Howard Hughes. Both were superb financial managers. Who cares about the poor and destitute in India or Africa? They were "less valiant" anyway. And deserved their lot. Jesus was God's financial broker and money-generator. Money runs the "kingdom of God". Of course.
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Simon Belmont wrote:
Polygamy-Porter wrote:http://www.wimp.com/wecould/

A guy from India feeding, clothing, and caring for the poor and destitute.

Too bad he isn't a Mormon, LDS PR would make him their new poster boy.



Someone does an amazing work of charity, and you use it to bash on the church.

You are scum.


Belmont,

Come in from the ledge. This is the title of the OP:

And this guy is not even a Mormon or a christian????
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This person is amazing. Just wow. I'm going to say this trying to sound...not so critical.
I think that there has been a lack of emphasis on helping other people in general. But in the church I always expected more. I wish I could take the money I had spent on tithing and donate it to this person. Or one of many other charitable places. I don't think God would be so prideful to be angry at me for not paying his church in order to feed the hungry.
I hope that not everyone will conclude that posting this and comparing is a form of attack and rather a call to action.
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greentam wrote:This person is amazing. Just wow. I'm going to say this trying to sound...not so critical.
I think that there has been a lack of emphasis on helping other people in general. But in the church I always expected more. I wish I could take the money I had spent on tithing and donate it to this person. Or one of many other charitable places. I don't think God would be so prideful to be angry at me for not paying his church in order to feed the hungry.
I hope that not everyone will conclude that posting this and comparing is a form of attack and rather a call to action.

I agree, the man is simply an amazing inspiration and credit to the human race.

I was going to ask why it is that "the bretheren" are ensconced safely in their 26 story high-rise at 50 E. North temple wondering if their Thursday hoagies will be roast beef or turkey, but that wouldn't be fair, because I am safely ensconced in my little world, wondering if my daily hoagie will be roast beef or turkey also.

But then again, I don't take money from others claiming to represent God, Jesus Christ and having "keys" and authority to save human souls either.
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Janitors have been cut back for some time with members doing light cleaning. But each ward still had FM staff assigned for more heavy cleaning, ground work and repairs. Recently that was even cut back. Now members do it all and repairs are sub contracted. The church is letting most of the janitors go by early retirements, reassignment or lay offs.

No Ray I was not a janitor.

One wonders if the big mall over run combined with lower tithes due to the bad economy is behind this.

But it bugs me. Members tithe, they give lots of time in callings, they do light cleaning and now get to clean toilets and weed gardens too. And they are told it is a blessing and if have to clean they will take better care of the building. puuuuhlease!
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What I find interesting about Narayanan Krishnan is not only does he prepare the food himself, and bring it to people, he personally feeds the weak and cuts their hair and shaves them, "providing extra dignity to those he serves." It's an eloquent and humble gesture and one I can't imagine being performed by, well, you can fill in the blank.
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