The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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Jason,

You remind me of the Mormon bishop of the Bellevue 8th Ward who, upon me telling him that my roommate was boffing and having oral sex with many LDS women in the Ward, told me I was a "liar" and "looked like a bum off the street".

Still today, to Mormon men in Arizona, Travis Alexander was FAR from a hypocrite. To them, he was a HERO! A martyr! One told me I was "not worthy enough to speak his name". Why? Because HE WAS SUCCESSFUL! He was an achiever. He got wealth. He got property. He got Church positions. HE GOT POONTANG (oh boy did he get poontang). Mormon men in Arizona don't think Travis is a hypocrite. He is their hero. He is their martyr.

Once again, the Hypocrite is NOT comdemned, but I am--the one who exposes the hypocrisy.

Jason...you'll make a typical Mormon bishop. The Mormon Church is FILLED with men like you, which is one reason I HAD TO GET out.

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Travis did NOT deserve to be murdured.But, he broke the Crazy Bitch Rule---f*** 'em one time, and one time only.



You are really a despicable man Darrick. Sorry dude, but I just have to call you out on it. Sick too. Get a grip man.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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darriktevenson, maybe this could be offered as an explanation to your observation about "alpha" males that goes beyond the concept of scents:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 50007.html

Just offering this up for consideration in the field of psychology, not making any accusations towards any actual persons.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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Jason,

You remind me of the Mormon bishop of the Bellevue 8th Ward who, upon me telling him that my roommate was boffing and having oral sex with many LDS women in the Ward, told me I was a "liar" and "looked like a bum off the street".


Darrick you remind me of many person I have dealt with that have some real issues that they need to get help with but don't and thus live lives of misery. I have been a bishop and I never did anything like what you say this other bishop did. I dealt with many sensitive issues in a caring and concerned way.

Some members of my ward were engaging in behavior the Church considered sinful. I never said once to you that SOME Mormon men and women do not engage in acts you talk about. Some do. All I said is that in my experience which is as valid and likely more extensive than yours given I grew up in Utah and have been in the LDS Church ALL my life, is different than yours. Some do what you say, many do not.

Still today, to Mormon men in Arizona, Travis Alexander was FAR from a hypocrite. To them, he was a HERO! A martyr! One told me I was "not worthy enough to speak his name". Why? Because HE WAS SUCCESSFUL! He was an achiever. He got wealth. He got property. He got Church positions. HE GOT POONTANG (oh boy did he get poontang). Mormon men in Arizona don't think Travis is a hypocrite. He is their hero. He is their martyr.


I have seen some very active and apparently good members do bad things. Big deal. Some do, many do not. They are not all like what you say.

Once again, the Hypocrite is NOT comdemned, but I am--the one who exposes the hypocrisy.



I did not speak to this specific situation. I agree if this young man was lying about what he was doing and showing a different life to the public he was hypocritical. But I do not know, nor do you really, what was in his heart, what he said to God and what he may have been planning to discuss or discuss with his bishop.

Jason...you'll make a typical Mormon bishop. The Mormon Church is FILLED with men like you, which is one reason I HAD TO GET out.


Darrick I was a bishop and I can tell you I was nothing like YOU think the typical bishop is. In fact I think I was a pretty good and caring bishop if I do say so myself.

But I doubt I will ever be a bishop again or hold any other significant leadership given my NOMness these days.

But no Darrick I think there were many other reasons you left the Church. Own up to your own choices rather than dump it all on others.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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So let me see if I get this right.

Facts:

You blame a man for his own murder.

You equate all women to mindless lust bunnies with no self-control when they're around 5% of the population (you can tell who they are because they can convince their lovers it's okay to sleep with their daughter).

You are convinced that some men get sex based on genetics and you are not one of them.

You still seem perpetually jealous about a roommate you once had who got more sex then you and all the 'alpha males'.

You claim to be a grown man but can't get over your teenage and tweenage years.

Conclusion:

You have never grown up.

You blame your failures on genetic factors instead of realizing that your bishop thinking you "looked like a bum off the street" might have also shot down your chances with women who undoubtedly thought the same.

You are incredibly jealous and vindictive about a dead guy and angry that people liked him and not you.

You are a sad, unhappy little man.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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The Nehor wrote:You are a sad, unhappy little man.


What good does a post like this do?
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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Runtu wrote:
The Nehor wrote:You are a sad, unhappy little man.


What good does a post like this do?


It entertained me to write it and I count that as good.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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To Nehor: Yes, thanks for the link. YES....most women LOVE men with NPD (Narsissitic Personality Disorder). Doesn't mean they all marry such men. They would if they could, believe me. All Alpha Males have NPD, which I call the "Lucifer Syndrome". Face it, "Lucifer" is just a guy with NPD.

To Jason: Mormon bishops like you are the reason almost ALL of my active LDS male acquaints referred to Mormon bishops as "rubes" and "clowns" and "dumb farmers" and "idiots" and "fools". Not all Mormon bishops are, but you certainly are. Just because YOU never covered up sin in your Ward, doesn't mean other bishops do not/have not. We KNOW they do! The Church has paid over 100 million so far in lawsuits, because THEY DO.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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darricktevenson wrote:
To Jason: Mormon bishops like you are the reason almost ALL of my active LDS male acquaints referred to Mormon bishops as "rubes" and "clowns" and "dumb farmers" and "idiots" and "fools". Not all Mormon bishops are, but you certainly are. Just because YOU never covered up sin in your Ward, doesn't mean other bishops do not/have not. We KNOW they do! The Church has paid over 100 million so far in lawsuits, because THEY DO.


I am not a bishop now. But you know I am a fool and rube exactly how? Let me guess. Because I disagree with your extrapolating your experience to panting all LDS males as over sexes liars and hypocrites who screw any girl they can while keeping their bride to be on the side for the temple and Mormon girls as silly little whores jumping in the sack for any strong or wealthy male that pays them attention. But I never said it does not happen some nor did I deny your story. And I will add I agree with you that there are some poor bishops and leaders. Sounds like you had one. I may have Bern one. I think I was pretty good and I think my ward in general like me. I know a few members who thought I sucked I am sure but many people after I was released said they missed me. My replacement was more traditional and typical on the cultural oddities in the church. I was not. I challenged the cultural things, taught grace, mercy, meekness, not to judge, etc. I could go on but I certainly don't need to justify things to you. I just cannot abide your misogyny and blanket assumptions about how people are. And I won't be quiet about it. You cannot tolerate anyone who challenges you so you attack them personally like you just did here with me. We went over this last time you were here spewing your same hateful filth. I am truly sorry you had a scummy roommate and a bishop that treated you badly. I do not believe I would have treated you like that had you come to me with accusations like you did. I hope I would not have.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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darricktevenson wrote:To Nehor: Yes, thanks for the link. YES....most women LOVE men with NPD (Narsissitic Personality Disorder).


True, you wouldn't believe how many dates I've gotten through being self-absorbed and demanding admiration and praise.

Doesn't mean they all marry such men.


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They would if they could, believe me.


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Is this your reasoning for why no women like you?

All Alpha Males have NPD,


Defined as 'guys you don't like'.

which I call the "Lucifer Syndrome". Face it, "Lucifer" is just a guy with NPD.


Considering your delusions of grandeur I suspect this whole NPD thing may be the pot making insinuations about the kettle.
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Re: The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona

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Amazing how this "The Murder of Travis Alexander of Mesa Arizona" has gotten off topic.

Who knows if Travis Alexander was an "alpha" male or not. Who cares?

He played around in secret, in violation of his stated beliefs, but played around with someone clearly unstable who made him pay for his deceit. He's dead and that's tragic but he rates real low on my sympathy scale.

Most of us would love it if sins had to be paid in full upon deed being done...at least, as long as it was others that had to pay for their sins. I'd love it if the guy who cuts me off in traffic was sent immediately to hell, or the repairmen who rips me off with outrageous prices was damned to eternal torment.
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