sock puppet wrote:But I'm still not trying to imagine a chair that isn't there, now am I?
The point is that, whether your five senses detect data that could be interpreted as a chair by your brain does not affect the existence of the chair.
There could be thousands of "objects" surrounding you at any given time, simply because your five senses do not detect them does not render them nonexistent.
karl61 wrote:If I remember right color is just a thing created in the mind/brain. In reality if you were to see things as they are you would not recognize it - it's all black and white and crazy.
I agree. My interpretation of the color blue could be vastly different from your interpretation. If you could literally see through my eyes, the entire world could appear vastly different.
There is no cow. That's actually a 5,000 word dissertation on metaphysics that supports your position.
You win.
V/R Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
karl61 wrote:If I remember right color is just a thing created in the mind/brain. In reality if you were to see things as they are you would not recognize it - it's all black and white and crazy.
I agree. My interpretation of the color blue could be vastly different from your interpretation. If you could literally see through my eyes, the entire world could appear vastly different.
Simon:
How is the field of optometry able to exist if things like vision and interpreting colors are completely subjective?
sock puppet wrote:But I'm still not trying to imagine a chair that isn't there, now am I?
The point is that, whether your five senses detect data that could be interpreted as a chair by your brain does not affect the existence of the chair.
There could be thousands of "objects" surrounding you at any given time, simply because your five senses do not detect them does not render them nonexistent.
...or does it?
Well, then your god is invisible, makes no sound, cannot be felt if touched, has no smell, and has no taste. Funny, are you aware of what the Mormon conception of god is?
How is the field of optometry able to exist if things like vision and interpreting colors are completely subjective?
Science has provided us with ways to measure the functions of the human eye, and to determine if it falls within acceptable parameters. Science has not provided us with insight into subjective experience of any of the senses.
How is the field of optometry able to exist if things like vision and interpreting colors are completely subjective?
Science has provided us with ways to measure the functions of the human eye, and to determine if it falls within acceptable parameters. Science has not provided us with insight into subjective experience of any of the senses.
How can a person be determined to be color blind if "blue" is subjective?
How can a person be determined to be blind if what we see is entirely subjective?
How can an optometrist "measure the functions of the human eye, and determine if it falls within acceptable parameters" unless he or she takes what a person subjectively describes he is seeing and measures that against objective standards?
