Buffalo wrote:Even if you completely abandon your tether to LDS standards of behavior and morality, it is extremely unlikely that you could ever become as immoral and unethical as Joseph Smith. Compared to him, an ex-Mo who falls into all the common vices of our age is a paragon of virtue and restraint.
Something to consider!
Wow. That's actually a brilliant observation. I would NEVER attempt to be married and score some *** with another man's wife at the same time. I would never even THINK of creating a religion with "seer stones", "gold plates", "Abrahamic scrolls", so on and so forth. This guy was SOOOO ballsy, and he pretty much got away with it until he effed up and went back to Carthage (what a weird decision that was).
Thanks, Mr. Buffalo!
V/R Dr. Cam
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
stemelbow wrote:I realize some critics like to complain about LDS without any LDS challenging their claims about LDS or whatever. But I do it anyway. They said even I'm welcome to post on this discussion board. even me. So i post as I see fit. challenge people's assumptions and statements as I feel appropriate.
I have no problem with that. I was just saying that I was responding to Redefined, not you. I have heard all of the things I mentioned said many times. Obviously, you haven't. No big deal. Saying that you haven't heard what the rest of us have is not exactly challengiung anyone's claims or complaints (that you took my post as a complaint speaks more about you than it does about what I said).
No offense intended of course. I really do just want the best for you.
stemelbow wrote:I realize some critics like to complain about LDS without any LDS challenging their claims about LDS or whatever. But I do it anyway. They said even I'm welcome to post on this discussion board. even me. So i post as I see fit. challenge people's assumptions and statements as I feel appropriate. No offense intended of course. I really do just want the best for you.
The day you actually start "challenging" anything, please let us know...Contradicting and creating convenient/imaginary straw-men is not "challenging"...thanks for playing though, you are great for a laugh.
by the way Runtu, it sounds like the stem thinks he's a better person than you...
"your reasoning that children should be experimented upon to justify a political agenda..is tantamount to the Nazi justification for experimenting on human beings."-SUBgenius on gay parents "I've stated over and over again on this forum and fully accept that I'm a bigot..." - ldsfaqs
stemelbow wrote:Ain't God great. I mean some as in all people including Mormons. I realize many a Mormon will end up terrestrialized and some telestialized and some even outer darkenized.
Sure but one cannot end up in the superior kingdom without first being a Mormon.
stemelbow wrote:Yes and no, pep pep. one can be baptized by proxy, ya know died without knowledge and such, and stil be in celestial. So to clarify, one must not be baptized while living on earth to be celestialized.
So being baptized by proxy isn't receiving the Holy Ghost? I guess I never thought of it that way, ya only need the Holy Ghost when you are alive. Duh, how could I not have thought about that before! Thank you stemelbow spotlighting another Mormon contradiction for me!
stemelbow wrote:As Mormon I would say, not necessarily, just as I already answered.
Runtu wrote:I have no problem with that. I was just saying that I was responding to Redefined, not you. I have heard all of the things I mentioned said many times. Obviously, you haven't. No big deal. Saying that you haven't heard what the rest of us have is not exactly challengiung anyone's claims or complaints (that you took my post as a complaint speaks more about you than it does about what I said).
No big deal. I'm not saying you don't want me challenging your claims. but the question of whether LDS have heard it, was something I thought you wanted input on. No big deal if not.
Now you sound like Wade.
Is that a good thing or bad thing? I'm doing my best to express my love and concern is all. No offense intended.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
schreech wrote:The day you actually start "challenging" anything, please let us know...Contradicting and creating convenient/imaginary straw-men is not "challenging"...thanks for playing though, you are great for a laugh.
by the way Runtu, it sounds like the stem thinks he's a better person than you...
Who's "us", the "US" in US vs them? I'll do my best to convenience ya, then. How's that?
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.