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stemelbow wrote:

Buffalo wrote:So you agree that most of us are Joseph Smith's moral superiors in the marital fidelity department?

I haven't been privy to your marriage fidelity department file. But I enourage you to feel the comfort you may or may not need. If it helps ya.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:

Buffalo wrote:Even if you completely abandon your tether to LDS standards of behavior and morality, it is extremely unlikely that you could ever become as immoral and unethical as Joseph Smith. Compared to him, an ex-Mo who falls into all the common vices of our age is a paragon of virtue and restraint.

Something to consider!

Wow. That's actually a brilliant observation. I would NEVER attempt to be married and score some *** with another man's wife at the same time. I would never even THINK of creating a religion with "seer stones", "gold plates", "Abrahamic scrolls", so on and so forth. This guy was SOOOO ballsy, and he pretty much got away with it until he effed up and went back to Carthage (what a weird decision that was).

Thanks, Mr. Buffalo!

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Dr. Cam

schreech wrote:Yea, sorry for expecting you to have the reading comprehension and critical thinking skills of an average 9th grader....I will try not to get upset when you prove unable to carry on an adult conversation (like most lds defenders here...). Again, the day you start actually challenging "US", let me know...currently, you are the perfect stooge for intelligent critics, not that i am complaining....

keithb wrote:I think that sometimes, when people are used to getting away with stuff in life, they start to think that they are invincible. I think that Joseph Smith thought that, if he went back to Carthage, he would end up getting away with his bad behavior someway, somehow.

Buffalo wrote:I've never cheated in my wife. And, I think it's rather rare for even the most serial cheaters to commit adultery with 34 different women, many of them already married or just children. Wouldn't you agree?

stemelbow wrote:I'm not hung up. just like to be clear, so as to not find myself trying to argue with people about something I did not mean--it happens all too often here. Trying my bes to convenience ya all.

stemelbow wrote:
I don't think your question, with its premise, makes any sense based on what i said. but be my guest to re-explain if you care.

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So being baptized by proxy isn't receiving the Holy Ghost? I guess I never thought of it that way, ya only need the Holy Ghost when you are alive. Duh, how could I not have thought about that before! Thank you stemelbow spotlighting another Mormon contradiction for me!


I didn't say what you thought I said, it seems. baptism is a two fold dealio--one is baptism by water the other by fire.

here wrote: . . . Dressed in white, they line up to enter the waters one by one to be immersed by the officiators with the short baptismal prayer: "Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you for and in behalf of N. N., who is dead, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen." The name of the dead person is read from a list to the officiator just before the immersion. One proxy may be baptized quickly in succession for ten or fifteen dead people. After the baptisms, two other officiators confirm the newly baptized dead persons as members of the Mormon church and confer upon them the gift of the Holy Ghost, by placing their hands upon the head of each proxy, with a similar short pronouncement. Hundreds of such baptisms and confirmations can be performed in a few hours. It is an efficient, production-line operation.

stemelbow wrote:I don't know if I've met a cheater let alone a serial cheater, so I can't make some definitive stance here. But I can agree with ya on principal if nuttin else.

Runtu wrote:That's how I read it, too. He'd always gotten through whatever messes he had put himself in, and he most likely thought Carthage was no exception. Of course, that doesn't excuse the people who murdered him and his brother.

Runtu wrote:So, to clarify, do you believe that a married man should not sleep with other women behind his wife's back because that would be morally wrong?

stemelbow wrote:

Buffalo wrote:I've never cheated in my wife. And, I think it's rather rare for even the most serial cheaters to commit adultery with 34 different women, many of them already married or just children. Wouldn't you agree?

I don't know if I've met a cheater let alone a serial cheater, so I can't make some definitive stance here. But I can agree with ya on principal if nuttin else.