The List of Incongruence of COTPOTCOJCOLDS and the Book of Mormon

[_Buffalo]

Official site of The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickeronite): http://www.thechurchofjesuschrist.org/

I again extend my invitation to anyone to explain what doctrines unique to the LDS Church can be found in the Book of Mormon.

The doctrine of the correlation between righteousness and lack of melanin in the skin.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

To me, as explained previously, what is central to Mormon is the Christian concept of the atonement.

So Born Agains are Mormon.

[_stemelbow]

So Born Agains are Mormon.

It is quite obvious that is an illogical conclusion to draw (although not surprising one here would draw it, pep pep). Just because what is central to the LDS religion is the same thing that is central to another, does not suggest both religions are united in all particulars. I mean there are distinguishing characteristics of course.

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

So Born Agains are Mormon.

It is quite obvious that is an illogical conclusion to draw (although not surprising one here would draw it, pep pep). Just because what is central to the LDS religion is the same thing that is central to another, does not suggest both religions are united in all particulars. I mean there are distinguishing characteristics of course.

Ah, so there is something additional to Christ that makes Mormons Mormon. NOT Christ. What is that?

[_Runtu]

I see. well you're wrong.

Is that an accusation? ;-)

I plain misunderstood. I thought you were saying it was an important source of doctrine/teaching for LDS. But suppose in your view it is not. Interesting that in nearly lesson, and nearly every sermon, the Book of Mormon is appealed to as teachings are expounded upon. I know I won't convince ya so oh well.

As I said, there are some doctrinal expositions in the Book of Mormon, but it is not as important a source of doctrine as the D&C and the Pearl of Great Price.

the accusation you leveled was that I overstated it. I already explained that. Is that not an accusation?

No, it's not an accusation. Just my opinion.

Let me give you an example of where I'm coming from. Take the first chapter of the Gospel Principles manual. There are 27 scripture references in that chapter about the nature of God; 8 of these are from the Book of Mormon. Here are the major teachings about God that are cited from the Book of Mormon in that chapter:

Alma 30:44: The existence of the earth testifies that there is a God.

3 Nephi 9:15: Jesus created the earth (this is essentially a restatement of John 1:1-3).

Mosiah 4:9: It is important to believe in God.

Alma 7:20: God cannot do wrong.

Alma 5:40: All good comes from God.

Mormon 9:15-20: God is a God of miracles.

Most of these teachings are things we know from the Bible. The distinctive and important doctrines about who and what God is come from other scriptures. In the 19 other references, we learn the nature of the Godhead, Jesus' relationship to the Father, God's purpose in creating the world, humanity's relationship to God, God has a physical body, and so on.

So, no, the distinctive and important doctrines of the restoration, such as those about the nature of God, do not come from the Book of Mormon, for the most part. That's all I'm saying.

[_stemelbow]

Ah, so there is something additional to Christ that makes Mormons Mormon. NOT Christ. What is that?

You don't know the difference between a Mormon and a born again? Well you need to start from the beginning then. Go talk to the missionaries and head off to a born again meetin'. That'd be a good start.

[_stemelbow]

So, no, the distinctive and important doctrines of the restoration, such as those about the nature of God, do not come from the Book of Mormon, for the most part. That's all I'm saying.

I think your example of Gospel Principals doesn't really help your point. But rest assured, I'm not going to quibble about the amount of important-ness. that's not really what my issue was concerning DJ's deception. But it appears we agree more than you are willing to admit(;

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

To me, as explained previously, what is central to Mormon is the Christian concept of the atonement.

What is central to Mormonism is NOT Christ. That is central to all Christians. What is central to Mormonism is Christ + the new God, Joseph Smith. Smith is the difference.

[_stemelbow]

What is central to Mormonism is NOT Christ. That is central to all Christians. What is central to Mormonism is Christ + the new God, Joseph Smith. Smith is the difference.

Central does not equal what is different. central is the primary and most important teaching/concept. The most important concept to the LDS religion and people is Christ's atonement.

[_Runtu]

I think your example of Gospel Principals doesn't really help your point. But rest assured, I'm not going to quibble about the amount of important-ness. that's not really what my issue was concerning DJ's deception. But it appears we agree more than you are willing to admit(;

I'm not quibbling, just trying to clarify my position. I do agree with you in part, just as I agree with Darth in part. I'm not sure why you aren't grasping that.