Mormons don't worship Joseph Smith

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Mormons don't worship Joseph Smith

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I mean they kind of do, in the same sort of way Catholics kind of worship Mary. But not really. No, what Mormons really worship is their church. The most important teachings of the LDS church all center on the church itself, and how true it is, and how essential it is, and how great it is. Our lives center around the church. Everything we do is to further the goals of the church.

So get down on your knees, my fellow Mormons, and praise the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints!

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Except that the Catholic Church does not rest on the shoulders of Mary.
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I mean they kind of do, in the same sort of way Catholics kind of worship Mary. But not really. No, what Mormons really worship is their church.


Doesn't seem to be the case with either. Mormons simply recognize the role of the Church as the dispenser of the true doctrine and prophets to lead it (Ephesians 4:11-14).
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bcspace wrote:
I mean they kind of do, in the same sort of way Catholics kind of worship Mary. But not really. No, what Mormons really worship is their church.


Doesn't seem to be the case with either. Mormons simply recognize the role of the Church as the dispenser of the true doctrine and prophets to lead it (Ephesians 4:11-14).


Don't forget the Church's role as the center of our lives and object of our devotion!
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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Don't forget the Church's role as the center of our lives and object of our devotion!


I've never prayed to the Church or Joseph Smith.
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bcspace wrote:
Don't forget the Church's role as the center of our lives and object of our devotion!


I've never prayed to the Church or Joseph Smith.


Or Jesus.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

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I've never prayed to the Church or Joseph Smith.

Or Jesus.


Correct.
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bcspace wrote:]

Correct.


Which means you don't worship him, of course.

Actually, there's nothing about worship that requires prayer.

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Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

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Which means you don't worship him, of course.

Actually, there's nothing about worship that requires prayer.


I suppose it depends on the context. Mine is that neither of these things is God to us and that is typically what one means when one claims one worships this or that.
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bcspace wrote:
I suppose it depends on the context. Mine is that neither of these things is God to us and that is typically what one means when one claims one worships this or that.


http://LDS.org/ensign/1990/01/no-other- ... y=Idolatry

“No Other Gods before Me”

“Intangible things make just as ready gods. Degrees and letters and titles can become idols. …

“Many people build and furnish a home and buy the automobile first—and then find they ‘cannot afford’ to pay tithing. Whom do they worship? Certainly not the Lord of heaven and earth, for we serve whom we love and give consideration to the object of our affection and desire. Young married couples who postpone parenthood until their degrees are attained might be shocked if their expressed preference were labeled idolatry. … Whom do they love and worship—themselves or God?” (The Miracle of Forgiveness, Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1969, pp. 40–41.)


Who do you worship? God or the church?
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.

B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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