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Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:35 am
by _zeezrom
Parents are telling us they are sad we did not give our son the gift of the Holy Ghost. This made me start thinking. How does an 8-9 year old miss out by not getting the Holy Ghost? Can someone list the things he's missing out on? He seems pretty happy and jovial. I wrestled with him today and he seemed just fine.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:37 pm
by _Buffalo
zeezrom wrote:Parents are telling us they are sad we did not give our son the gift of the Holy Ghost. This made me start thinking. How does an 8-9 year old miss out by not getting the Holy Ghost? Can someone list the things he's missing out on? He seems pretty happy and jovial. I wrestled with him today and he seemed just fine.
It's like primitive tribesmen being sad that you didn't let the shaman shake his medicine stick over the child to protect him from angry animal spirits.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:44 pm
by _huckelberry
don't worry Zeezrom. You have absolutely no power to keep the Holy Spirit away from your child.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:34 pm
by _brade
When I was on my mission we were given a talk by one of the apostles. This talk was given to my mission president during his mission president training. The major message of the talk was that the most important feature of the gift of the Holy Ghost is its cleansing power. According to this apostle (and I can't remember who it was now) the Holy Ghost's primary mission is to, in a sense, authorize or seal blessings, including blessings of forgiveness, on us, and that without the gift a person cannot be sufficiently purified for entrance into the highest orders of the afterlife. So, from the perspective of a believer, your son might be missing out on that, despite your perception that he's doing just fine.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:41 pm
by _zeezrom
Brade,
That is sick and wrong.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:08 pm
by _sock puppet
zeezrom wrote:Brade,
That is sick and wrong.
I don't think Brade was endorsing this view, just relaying what he heard shoveled at him when he was on a mission.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:01 pm
by _zeezrom
sock puppet wrote:I don't think Brade was endorsing this view, just relaying what he heard shoveled at him when he was on a mission.
My phrasing appears to be poised against brade. I didn't mean it that way.
I'm disheartened to learn that "spiritual men" seem to believe that the spirit is reduced to a key for the one true church, without which people can't improve themselves with exertion. The spirit is no longer a beautiful thing but rather a tool crafted by men of authority. Now, considering this in the context of children is just sick and wrong. Thanks for sharing, brade.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:06 am
by _Hades
Zee, I have a daughter in the exact same boat as your son and she seems fine as well. I no longer have this spirit since I left Mormonism. I don't feel any different. That's weird.
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:23 am
by _GR33N
zeezrom wrote:Parents are telling us they are sad we did not give our son the gift of the Holy Ghost. This made me start thinking. How does an 8-9 year old miss out by not getting the Holy Ghost? Can someone list the things he's missing out on? He seems pretty happy and jovial. I wrestled with him today and he seemed just fine.
http://lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/8.4?lang=eng#1
Re: Holy Ghost helping children
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:58 pm
by _brade
Sock is right, I wasn't endorsing that view as true, I was just presenting it. I do think it's a good way for believers to explain the fact that people who leave the Church or who never join can be perfectly happy throughout their lives. Again, that isn't to say I think it's true.