Kevin Graham wrote:Why is it more likely? No one has ever been able to refute my arguments when I post there and I usually end up getting messages from several people asking me for their help with certain issues. The mods read the private messages, we know this for a fact. They then delete me because of this, saying they will not have their forum used as a platform for anti-Mormon recruitment or what not.
I believe your attempts at muddying up the place for your enjoyment as pretty much warn out your welcome. If you disagree then be my guest and continue in your self-delusions. Sadly, its true though. You can't even post there under an alias without someone figuring you out and you getting banned again. They have rules. You don't' abide by them. You get banned. yOu come and complain here. You think you are always right, it seems. So what? That's just silliness on yoru part.
The name of the site is a misnomer. Mormon Dialogue? That silly forum has always been interested in one thing and one thing alone. Suppressing dissenting views and using mod authority too shape discussions in a manner that makes it look like the apologetic side has the upper hand.
even if true. so? They have their place to have their fun. You break their rules and then complain when they in force the rules. You act like a troubled neighborhood kid who wishes to play with everyone but when you do you break all the rules of decorum common to the group of kids so they refrain from playing with ya. Whenever you find a way back in you continue to upset them, so they continue to avoid you. Finally it gets tothe point of whenever you are around, even if you're being nice, polite and abiding by their rules, they still want you gone because you've upset them too many times in the past.
And I was banned in August 2006 when I dared challenge Daniel Peterson and Brian Hauglid on a very sensitive issue. When I was first reprimanded I had no less than four veteran posters complain that I was being singled out. Greg Taggert even said he thought my responses to these people were very gracious, and not trying to be disrespectful. But because I kept asking them questions they had no answer for, Juliann stepped in and invoked an "asked and answered" policy, meaning I wasn't allowed to ask a question if it had already been answered. But it wasn't answered. Hauglid asserted without evidence that the text critical evidence indicating the Book of Abraham manuscripts were dictated, also make sense within a copyist scenario. I asked him how, and he just kept repeating the same thing. "It is compatible with a copyist view." That assertion doesn't explain HOW though, and I was hardly the only person on the forum asking him to explain it.
I think it was a few days later Dan peterson got on my case and I was banned for good. Too many people were struggling over this issue and they needed to thin the herd of critical responders. So frankly, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Boohoo. It sounds to me you making this into a personal vendetta pretty much makes the case. I'm sure they have their views why you were banned the first time, and all the subsequent times after that. You have yours. You wish to think you were all right when they were all wrong. I doubt it. But hey, I could be wrong. Who cares what they do? Its a place you have burned all your bridges at. You're not allowed to post over there. That doesn't mean you don't have anything useful to add to the discussion of Mormon things. Surely you do. There's a place here for you to do it. Now, let's get over it and move on already.
Stop living in the past, man.Yes it is, as evidenced by their actions.
I believe you are doing nothing more than emoting at this point. Surely folks who post at FAIR and even FAIR itself have demonstrated over the years that they have quite an interest in factual information. If you disagree for whatever reason, I believe such speaks more to your ignorance and hostility than to anything else. Indeed, how can you disagree with that? They simply think you wreak havoc in terms of decorum over there. That's why they wish you gone. Not because you're some unimagined, gigantic hero that they wish did not exist exposing their deceptive plans--kind of crazy thinking if that's what you're going for.
It would never come from Pahoran. He is the one who likes to do a CFR thinking he is on the verge of catching me in a snare. But I didn't proviide examples in my initial statement because I knew someone like him would demand examples. The fact that they do this proves my point that no one on that forum has a decent grasp of the situation. Ignorance on the Book of Abraham is at an all time high over there, thanks to many contradicting FAIR presentations that seek to do nothing except complicate a rather simple matter.
If you are correct here, then it will all come out in time. Here you even incriminate David Bokovoy by saying "no one on that forum". He seemed to have agreed with at least some of what you said. My goodness, you get going in your emoting rants and you don't even realize you attack those who are attempting to have your back to, at least, some extent.
Truth, as always. And yes, I do get a kick out of poking fun of some of the most self-righteous idiots like Pahoran and JeffK. The fact that they refuse to come here and venture outside their safety zone, is very telling. They have no argument to make outside MAD because they know they will always be hammered with the facts. Facts that will not be edited or censored by the mods.
None of you fare well over here in debate, no matter what the topic is.
I think the hostility here pretty much explains why more LDS don't post here. This is more of an "anything goes" place which doesn't accomodate LDS posters very well. Fine. But that's more likely why they don't post here, moreso than because they are afraid of you. Indeed Pahoran came for a spell recently. he's trying, at least.