sock puppet wrote:They ask if you observe the WoW.
Which doesn't say anything about coffee.
I thought that bcspace denying that the Millennial Star was an official church publication was sort of like the speed of light being the speed limit for the universe. I thought that internet Mormons could not go any lower in being so flagrantly disingenuous. I now stand corrected.
Apparently you have not grown up Mormon. Trust me, I know from personal experience that Mormons think coffee is bad because it breaks a commandment, leads to serious addictions, and pollutes the temple (your body).
Here is another. To a Mormon, Drinking coffee is worse than gossiping and hurting someone's feelings to get personal gain.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Apparently you have not grown up Mormon. Trust me, I know from personal experience that Mormons think coffee is bad because it breaks a commandment, leads to serious addictions, and pollutes the temple (your body).
Here is another. To a Mormon, Drinking coffee is worse than gossiping and hurting someone's feelings to get personal gain.
If you were ever a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you would know that there is no such thing as "a Mormon." We are called Latter-day Saints, or members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The question was whether the temple recommend questions ask about coffee.
They do not.
Zeezrom thinks they do.
So, CFR, Zeezrom.
You are being deliberately stupid. Coffee is part of the Word Wisdom, and members are asked in temple recommend interviews if they follow the Word of Wisdom.
I recall a bishop telling me of a woman who came to get a recommend. When asked if she observed the Word of Wisdom, she said that she occasionally drank a cup of coffee. She said, “Now, bishop, you’re not going to let that keep me from going to the temple, are you?” To which he replied, “Sister, surely you will not let a cup of coffee stand between you and the House of the Lord.”
My next story is about a woman I will call Mary. She was the daughter of faithful pioneer parents who had sacrificed much for the gospel. She had been married in the temple and was the mother of 10 children. She was a talented woman who taught her children how to pray, to work hard, and to love each other. She paid her tithing, and the family rode to church together on Sunday in their wagon.
Though she knew it was contrary to the Word of Wisdom, she developed the habit of drinking coffee and kept a coffee pot on the back of her stove. She claimed that "the Lord will not keep me out of heaven for a little cup of coffee." But, because of that little cup of coffee, she could not qualify for a temple recommend, and neither could those of her children who drank coffee with her. Though she lived to a good old age and did eventually qualify to reenter and serve in the temple, only one of her 10 children had a worthy temple marriage, and a great number of her posterity, which is now in its fifth generation, live outside of the blessings of the restored gospel she believed in and her forefathers sacrificed so much for.
Explain that before we may enter the temple, the Lord expects us to be free of practices that make our lives unclean and unhealthy, both spiritually and physically.
Read parts or all of the following scriptures:
1 Corinthians 3:16–17 (Our bodies are temples of God and should not be defiled.)
Doctrine and Covenants 89 (This revelation is known as the Word of Wisdom. Verses 1–9 discuss the things we should not take into our bodies; verses 10–17 discuss the things that are good for our bodies; verses 18–21 describe the Lord’s promises to those who keep His commandments.)
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What things in the world today influence us to break the commandments given to us in the Word of Wisdom? * •
How can we help ourselves and our children to keep the Lord’s laws of health?
Ask the class members to read Doctrine and Covenants 29:34.
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In what ways do you think obedience to the Word of Wisdom can bless us spiritually as well as physically? * •
What are some “great treasures of knowledge” (D&C 89:19) we might receive by keeping these commandments?
Share the following statement by President Boyd K. Packer:
“What you learn spiritually depends, to a degree, on how you treat your body. That is why the Word of Wisdom is so important.
“The habit-forming substances prohibited by that revelation—tea, coffee, liquor, tobacco—interfere with the delicate feelings of spiritual communication, just as other addictive drugs will do.
“Do not ignore the Word of Wisdom, for that may cost you the ‘great treasures of knowledge, even hidden treasures’ promised to those who keep it. And good health is an added blessing” (in Conference Report, Oct. 1994, 78; or Ensign, Nov. 1994, 61).
Doctrine and Covenants and Church History Seminary Student Study Guide Doctrine and Covenants 89 - The Word of Wisdom President JosephF. Smith explained: “The reason undoubtedly why the Word of Wisdom was given—as not by ‘commandment or restraint’ was that at that time, at least, if it had been given as a commandment it would have brought every man, addicted to the use of these noxious things, under condemnation; so the Lord was merciful and gave them a chance to overcome, before He brought them under the law. Later on, it was announced ... by President Brigham Young, that the Word of Wisdom was a revelation and a command of the Lord” (in Conference Report, Oct. 1913, 14). Obedience to the Word of Wisdom is also one of the requirements to obtain a temple recommend.
President Hyrum Smith—the Prophet Joseph Smith’s brother, Patriarch to the Church, and Assistant President—taught: “And again ‘hot drinks are not for the body, or belly;’ there are many who wonder what this can mean; whether it refers to tea, or coffee, or not. I say it does refer to tea, and coffee” (“The Word of Wisdom,” Times and Seasons, June1, 1842, 800).
Apparently you have not grown up Mormon. Trust me, I know from personal experience that Mormons think coffee is bad because it breaks a commandment, leads to serious addictions, and pollutes the temple (your body).
Here is another. To a Mormon, Drinking coffee is worse than gossiping and hurting someone's feelings to get personal gain.
If you were ever a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, you would know that there is no such thing as "a Mormon." We are called Latter-day Saints, or members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
You only speak for yourself. Remember?
I wonder, though, if you could recommend any good CD's by the "Latter-day Saint Tabernacle Choir."
And by the way, here's a song from The Friend called, "I Am a Mormon Boy."
Ha! Simon outsmarted you all once again. He framed the question to be one of whether they asked specifically about coffee. They do not. He did not say anything about that amorphous catchall of the Word of Wisdom. You naysayers do not have your apologetic filters set on maximum gain and are thus missing the message.
My son has a shirt that says "I love Mormon girls." I guess someone should alert the shirt maker that there is no such thing. LOL
~Those who benefit from the status quo always attribute inequities to the choices of the underdog.~Ann Crittenden ~The Goddess is not separate from the world-She is the world and all things in it.~
moksha wrote:Ha! Simon outsmarted you all once again. He framed the question to be one of whether they asked specifically about coffee. They do not. He did not say anything about that amorphous catchall of the Word of Wisdom. You naysayers do not have your apologetic filters set on maximum gain and are thus missing the message.
Simon is an effing genius. I wish I could polygamously marry one of your daughters to him.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist