Joseph wrote:"I have no idea how a person can make an assumption and then, treat it as fact." ***********************************
So, you don't believe what the jokers who stand up in fast meeting say as a Testimony?
In a way yes. However, when it comes to religion, people depend on the holy ghost to confirm truth. Also, it is one thing to know and quite another thing to believe. Members should claim: I believe the church to be true. And not the verb 'to know'.
Critics as merc make a claim that they know that the lds church is untrue. And they state it as if the lds church has been proven to be untrue which is of course not true.
liz3564 wrote: It's a great first step. Does anyone have ideas on how this type of thing can continue?
He claimed the lds church is not true. In fact, we don't know if it is true or not. It has not been proven untrue. He made a statement that is false. Maybe he should have said: In my opinion, the lds church is not true. But then again, all critics should say: In my opinion...
Maybe the olive branch is: Respect each other's opinion.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
liz3564 wrote: It's a great first step. Does anyone have ideas on how this type of thing can continue?
He claimed the lds church is not true. In fact, we don't know if it is true or not. It has not been proven untrue. He made a statement that is false. Maybe he should have said: In my opinion, the lds church is not true. But then again, all critics should say: In my opinion...
Maybe the olive branch is: Respect each other's opinion.
I have a proposal. When Monson starts prefacing all of his comments with "In my opinion...", I will do the same when I make any comments about Mormonism. Deal?
why me wrote: He claimed the lds church is not true. In fact, we don't know if it is true or not. It has not been proven untrue. He made a statement that is false. Maybe he should have said: In my opinion, the lds church is not true. But then again, all critics should say: In my opinion...
Maybe the olive branch is: Respect each other's opinion.
You are a broken record. I hear people say they know the church is true all the time. Maybe they should respect others opinions about it. He stated his opinion that the church has been proven false, and I would agree. One does not have to say my opinion. Sure there are some who don't agree. Not my problem, but why should he have to say In my opinion when you will not do it. I think you are being a little hypocritical.
Dad of a Mormon wrote: I have a proposal. When Monson starts prefacing all of his comments with "In my opinion...", I will do the same when I make any comments about Mormonism. Deal?
Very few religious leaders will come out and say that their church is false or not true. However, it is up to you to prove the lie. And if a person states that the lds church is false, they must prove it. Monson has faith that his church is true. What proof do you have that it is not?
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Themis wrote: You are a broken record. I hear people say they know the church is true all the time. Maybe they should respect others opinions about it. He stated his opinion that the church has been proven false, and I would agree. One does not have to say my opinion. Sure there are some who don't agree. Not my problem, but why should he have to say In my opinion when you will not do it. I think you are being a little hypocritical.
If the lds church has been proven false, it would fall like a house of cards. Innuendos or hypotheticals don't cut it. In the celestial forum, the debate still rages as to whom wrote the Book of Mormon. Still no proof from either side...the daleites, the vogelites etc.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith
Dad of a Mormon wrote: I have a proposal. When Monson starts prefacing all of his comments with "In my opinion...", I will do the same when I make any comments about Mormonism. Deal?
Very few religious leaders will come out and say that their church is false or not true. However, it is up to you to prove the lie. And if a person states that the lds church is false, they must prove it. Monson has faith that his church is true. What proof do you have that it is not?
cafe crema wrote:
why me wrote: If I make a claim that something is untrue, I must prove it conclusively.
Then the same holds true for those who claim something is true, they must prove it conclusively.
The LDS church has not been proven true, until something is conclusively proven true it remains, not true. What proof do you have that the Theory of Mormonism is true?
cafe crema wrote: The LDS church has not been proven true, until something is conclusively proven true it remains, not true. What proof do you have that the Theory of Mormonism is true?
The catholic church believes that it is the true church. What proof is there that it is true? None.
I intend to lay a foundation that will revolutionize the whole world. Joseph Smith We are “to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to provide for the widow, to dry up the tear of the orphan, to comfort the afflicted, whether in this church, or in any other, or in no church at all…” Joseph Smith