Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
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_wenglund
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
Is thread sponsored by the National Enquirer? It sure seems like it to me (fromwhat little I have been exposed to that magizine).
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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_Rollo Tomasi
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
wenglund wrote:Is thread sponsored by the National Enquirer? It sure seems like it to me (fromwhat little I have been exposed to that magizine).
You're comparing official LDS publications (such as The Contributor) to the National Enquirer? Shame on you! ;)
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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_stemelbow
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
Fence Sitter wrote:Stem,
So many of your posts seem to end in the same way. You require a standard of 'proof' (a la Whyme) unattainable by either side, you accept both sides at face value and you accuse both sides of engaging in the same tactics. I will request the mods transfer my screen name to you.
I appreciate that. I had hoped for that screen name to begin with, but as it turns out it was already in use.
In all seriousness, I'm having hard time drawing a definite conclusion either way. I'm leaning towards Burton was not the nicest guy. And although he felt justified in his actions, and some of the accounts are probably terribly biased exaggerations of what happened, which exaggerations are meant to make him look worse, I don't think he was anywhere near a man worth notic in GC as an example of kindness. And even if he was rather innocent I still him as one who is heavily enmeshed in controvery. With that alone, i don't see why he would be used in GC as an example of kindness. It simply doesn't seem to fit.
Love ya tons,
Stem
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Stem
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_wenglund
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
Rollo Tomasi wrote: You're comparing official LDS publications (such as The Contributor) to the National Enquirer? Shame on you! ;)
I trust that even you can figure out that this thread is not an official LDS publication, nor is your one-sided, sensationalistic opinion. So, obviously, I am not making the comparison you suggest, though it is understandable that you would jumpt to that false conclusion. Doing so seems second nature to you.
Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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_Rollo Tomasi
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
wenglund wrote:I trust that even you can figure out that this thread is not an official LDS publication, nor is your one-sided, sensationalistic opinion. So, obviously, I am not making the comparison you suggest, though it is understandable that you would jumpt to that false conclusion. Doing so seems second nature to you.
Your vague Enquirer comment immediately followed my post quoting the Contributor article at length; hence, my response. Thank you for the clarification. I'm happy to see you are not in disagreement with the Contributor article (or other LDS sources I have cited).
"Moving beyond apologist persuasion, LDS polemicists furiously (and often fraudulently) attack any non-traditional view of Mormonism. They don't mince words -- they mince the truth."
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
-- Mike Quinn, writing of the FARMSboys, in "Early Mormonism and the Magic World View," p. x (Rev. ed. 1998)
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_Fence Sitter
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
stemelbow wrote:[I appreciate that. I had hoped for that screen name to begin with, but as it turns out it was already in use.
In all seriousness, I'm having hard time drawing a definite conclusion either way. I'm leaning towards Burton was not the nicest guy. And although he felt justified in his actions, and some of the accounts are probably terribly biased exaggerations of what happened, which exaggerations are meant to make him look worse, I don't think he was anywhere near a man worth notic in GC as an example of kindness. And even if he was rather innocent I still him as one who is heavily enmeshed in controvery. With that alone, i don't see why he would be used in GC as an example of kindness. It simply doesn't seem to fit.
Stem,
Why do we have to draw conclusions right now at all?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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_Fence Sitter
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
Bump.
Will do you have more information regarding this issue?
Will do you have more information regarding this issue?
"Any over-ritualized religion since the dawn of time can make its priests say yes, we know, it is rotten, and hard luck, but just do as we say, keep at the ritual, stick it out, give us your money and you'll end up with the angels in heaven for evermore."
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_Buffalo
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
Fence Sitter wrote:Bump.
Will do you have more information regarding this issue?
Of course he doesn't. He's too busy trying to get even with David for not supporting Will in his sins by slandering David in emails to BYU professors.
Parley P. Pratt wrote:We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote:There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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_Will Schryver
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
Fence Sitter wrote:Bump.
Will do you have more information regarding this issue?
I do indeed.
From both of the starkly delineated sides that formed following the so-called "Morrisite War."
Sometime in the relatively near future, I'll take the time to write up a summary of what I have learned.
I thought myself the wiser to have viewed the evidence left of such a great demise. I followed every step. But the only thing I ever learned before the journey's end was there was nothing there to learn, only something to forget.
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_Will Schryver
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Re: Robert Taylor Burton: Saint or Murderer?
Buffalo wrote:Fence Sitter wrote:Bump.
Will do you have more information regarding this issue?
Of course he doesn't. He's too busy trying to get even with David for not supporting Will in his sins by slandering David in emails to BYU professors.
It's always rather stunning how quickly a new addendum to the talking points gets adopted and then enthusiastically promulgated. This place is a finely-tuned propaganda machine.
I thought myself the wiser to have viewed the evidence left of such a great demise. I followed every step. But the only thing I ever learned before the journey's end was there was nothing there to learn, only something to forget.