Sealed against what?

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The Mormon Church officiates "sealings" in its temples, sealing a husband and wife together, and children not BIC to their parents.

JSJr's also performed 'dynastic sealings'. At least, this was religious rubric he created to explain why god was not only okay with but wanted JSJr to have sex with other men's wives. (I call that polyandry, but that's certainly not so lofty sounding as 'dynastic sealings'.)

But what of all this 'sealing'? Sealing them against what? Against being separated, or being assigned to some other eternal spouse. Apparently the the dynastic sealing was for the assignment of a spouse to JSJr so he felt better about the two of them committing adultery, but he did not care for them like providing them a home and financial support and a stable environment to raise kids he sired. This was more temporary, more like 'afternoon delight'.

Who would be doing this separation and reassignment in the hereafter but for these sealings? Elohim and jehovah, you say. So these all powerful, all knowledgeable, all good beings, elohim and jehovah, would be doing this separation and reassignment, but if you have this ceremony here on earth (and for which being a full tithe payer is a requisite), even if these all powerful, all knowledgeable, and all good beings thought it otherwise best and just, they would not do so. Instead, they would honor these temple sealings, even if it perpetuates for eternity a not very good union, one that is contrary to this all knowledge/all good.

Rather, the Mormon Church teaches that god gave the power to the Mormon officials and god covenants not to exercise his own best judgment, what would be best for you. Instead, he lets us at a point in time when we are taught that we are vastly inferior in knowledge and capacity for good (than we might someday when we too become gods) pick someone that will be our eternal companion. These same Mormon leaders also teach that we should not delay this past our mid 20s and hold out to find "Ms. right" or "Mr. right", but get on with getting so sealed to anyone of many for whom we might be "compatible". As long as eternity is, it is somehow better in the grand scheme of things for god to choose to limit his powers so that we, at a very vulnerable time (per Mormon teachings) can merely do this with someone we might be compatible with.

But I come back to the point that the Mormon leaders would have us believe that god will honor this 'choice' we make, rather than do for eternity what he knows to be best for us. Now, I've heard the Mormon weasel words in this regard. Elohim and jehovah only have to honor this sealing in the hereafter if both live up to the covenants not to sin each makes as part of or prerequisite to the sealing. So, let's suppose a husband and wife are so valiant, the 'perfect' themselves against sin. But they do not really like each other, or perhaps only one of them doesn't like the other. Elohim and jehovah are going to make them spend eternity together?

Maybe this sealing of women to men in 1840s Nauvoo was a concept conceived to assure these couples that JSJr would not have the wife as his in the hereafter if the husband allowed and the wife participated in this mortal life (specifically 1840s Nauvoo) in some 'afternoon delight' with JSJr.

Mormonism--the more you think about it, the more absurd it is.

[_GR33N]

Steve Stills has some advice for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IVuN1N6-Y&feature=related

[_Inconceivable]

Keep in mind that a wife is required to give her eternal husband her "New Name" just before they are sealed in the temple. Not the other way around. The husband is required to keep his SECRET from her (My bride still doesn't know my New Name).

In other words's, he finds her in the hereafter, not the other way around. He also resurrects her (recall the purpose of the 2nd token of the Melchizedek Priesthood).

Perhaps if the Mormon priesthood holder is repelled by a particular mistress, he'll just leave her molting and unresurrected.

[_RockSlider]

Steve Stills has some advice for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IVuN1N6-Y&feature=related

seems Joseph Smith could have inspired that song

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Steve Stills has some advice for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5IVuN1N6-Y&feature=related

Thanks, GR33N. I like Stills. Hadn't heard that song in year or two. I'd say that JSJr took that sentiment to heart and loved the one he was with, even if it was only for an hour.

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But seriously, why would I want to be sealed in a way that would be against the best judgment of an all knowing, all good god (if I believed in such)?

[_harmony]

But seriously, why would I want to be sealed in a way that would be against the best judgment of an all knowing, all good god (if I believed in such)?

I think it matters that by the time this revelation showed up, Joseph had already dropped the prophetic mantle. That makes this one questionable at best.

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But seriously, why would I want to be sealed in a way that would be against the best judgment of an all knowing, all good god (if I believed in such)?

Bump for any brave TBMs to answer.

[_The Nehor]

But seriously, why would I want to be sealed in a way that would be against the best judgment of an all knowing, all good god (if I believed in such)?

Hence why we are counseled to get God's advice on the matter. If you don't you void the warranty.

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But seriously, why would I want to be sealed in a way that would be against the best judgment of an all knowing, all good god (if I believed in such)?

Hence why we are counseled to get God's advice on the matter. If you don't you void the warranty.

If "Joe" seeks that counsel, god tells Joe not to marry "Jane" but Joe does, but are not sealed in the temple, and Jane and Joe keep his commandments, are they sealed against god's better judgment of whom would make better eternal companions for each of them?

If the marriage is in harmony with god's best judgment, that's what it will be for eternity anyway--unless god would separate them despite his best judgment. Not a very loving god, wanting the best for them. Imagine such a god thinking they're best left together for eternity, but then saying to them because they did not get sealed in the temple, I, god, am going to separate you even though that is against your best interests.

If god is in agreement that the marriage of 'Joe' and Jane is in their best interests, he would not separate them, sealing or not. So all that a sealing can do is preserve a union in eternity that is against god's best judgment. That sealing would be counterproductive.

So it seems a 'sealing' isn't worth a tinker's damn if all it does is seals me to someone that in god's best judgment is not best for me.