"You're Only as Young as the Women You Feel"Beastie is a female community member who has had a number of exchanges with William over the years. Throughout these exchanges, William has often made derogatory comments to
beastie about her appearance and her age, in addition to bringing crude sexual material into his exchanges with her.
On
4/11/08,
beastie became the second of several women on this forum to be described by William with some variation of the word
bitch (
liz3564 was the first; see below). In a reply to
beastie, he quoted her as "Bitchie."
In that same exchange with William, commenting on the argument he was making,
beastie said (
4/9/08):
beastie wrote:In other words, sexual libertinism is only ok when God sanctions it first. Like all mob leaders, God bestows many "privileges" among his alpha males.
To which William replied (
4/11/08 --- italics his, bold mine):
William Schryver wrote:Yes He does. And I am personally gratified that it bothers you so much. But don’t you worry, in the resurrection there will be no “alpha males” who will have any desire for your “Barbie doll-like” immortal body. I mean, I’m sure you’ll be nice to look at – but you’ll be good for nothing when it comes to the things that matter most. ;-)
Then later in the same post, William added:
William Schryver wrote:[Latter-day Saints] also believe that Joseph Smith knew exactly what he was talking about when he gave the interpretation of the following image:
[Image]
And they intend to do whatever is necessary to guarantee their capacity for such things in perpetuity.
The link to the image William posted no longer works, but he posted a link to the erect phallus of the Egyptian god Min from Facsimile No. 2 Figure 7 of the Book of Abraham.
MormonThink.com has a copy of this image
here.
In reply to the "Bitchie" appellation,
beastie made this remark, alluding to the previous incidents with
KimberlyAnn (
4/11/08 --- emphasis hers):
beastie wrote:How surprising that a pretentious, flamboyant, self-flattering* man who prefers to comment on women’s cleavage than anything of substance would revert to this.
Actually, that would be unsurprising,wouldn’t it?
To which William replied (
4/15/08):
William Schryver wrote:[Y]ou’re just jealous that I like Kimberly’s cleavage better than yours. But hey, at 50 what’s a woman to do? ;-)
In another exchange with William the following year,
beastie commented on some of the material I quoted above, i. e. William's first comments on
KimberlyAnn's breasts here at this forum and his unsettling fixation with them.
Beastie said (
4/15/09):
beastie wrote:Heh. I first noticed this trait in Will when he referred to his first meeting with KA long ago (too long ago for me to be able to find the post). If I recall correctly, he stated he could hardly take his eyes off her, hinting strongly that his eyes were drawn mainly toward her breasts. It surprised me for a self-professed LDS believer to make such a comment, so I began to notice other comments he would make, as well. His comments about women's anatomy were frequent enough that he did, indeed, appear to be the cyber equivalent of a "breast-starer".
To this William replied (
4/15/09 --- bold mine, italics his):
William Schryver wrote:beastlie, you are a lying, deceitful bitch of a woman.
I defy anyone to locate anything I have ever written on this board or elsewhere that could be reasonably seen as fitting the description you give above.
Anyone who reads my "Obsessed with Breasts and a Little Black Dress" post in this thread can see that
beastie's memory was more than accurate. Furthermore, it seems that later remarks made by William have born out her observations as correct.
This lead to an argument between
beastie and William as to whether or not William is really sexist in his dealings with women, i. e. whether or not he really fixates on their appearances, bodies, and sexuality when responding to them.
beastie said (
4/14/09):
beastie wrote:For another example, look at your response to me – you focused on my physical characteristics, emphasizing that no man could possibly be attracted to me. (by the way, there are enough posters here who have seen pictures of me to render your comment silly)
You have a habit, and perhaps people in real life are too polite to point it out to you, or perhaps you don’t do it in real life, but you certainly do it on this board. You have a habit of sexualizing your comments to women, in responding to them in a way that objectifies them, in the proper sense of the word, not the over-used sense of the word. When you disagree with what a female poster says, you often insert some derogatory comment about her physical appearance. When you have reason to believe you would find a female poster physically attractive, you insert some flirtatious, sometimes suggestive comment while dismissing her comments. This all adds up to someone who cyber ogles women, sizing them up like pieces of meat in the market.
To which William responded (denying that one of his previous replies had focused on her physical appearance ---
4/14/09):
William Schryver wrote:No it didn’t,
you deceitful shrew, it talked about your “ugly soul” that would “come through” and render you unattractive. You’re a liar and a propagandist.
beastie wrote:… sizing them up like pieces of meat in the market.
If so, I’d liken you to a ham hock.
In the same thread,
beastie finally posted a picture of herself so that William would stop calling her ugly (she has since removed the picture). William replied (
4/15/09):
William Schryver wrote:You are quite a hot little dish!
Who woulda thunk it?
Hey, if you're ever in town ... nah, never mind. :lol:
Since then William has mostly focused on poking fun at
beastie's age---which is, incidentally, not much older than his. However, the sexual innuendo has remained. Last year, William participated in a lengthy thread that concerned Brent Metcalfe and Mark Hoffman. I simply cannot do justice to everything that was being said on that thread by summarizing here, and strongly encourage anyone who is interested to read the thread from the start. Of interest for the purposes of this section of my thread: at one point,
beastie issued the following reply to William, making a mildly crude but non-sexual reference to the Old Testament's King David (
9/4/10):
beastie wrote:Aw, ain't it cute. Little Wee Willie imagines he's David, but instead of a well-placed rock shooting forth from his sling, all he can manage is some hot air so rancid one wonders from which end it originated.
William immediately turned the exchange to the sexual (
9/4/10):
William Schryver wrote:Settle down, beastsheba.
I assure you I have no desire whatsoever to watch you bathe.In the immortal words of
Dodge Connelly:
"You’re only as young as the women you feel."
And
I have no desire to feel sixty-five.
I imagine
beastie had no desire to feel creeped out by William's jokes about (not) wanting to feel her up, but it seems it's too late for that now.