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Nothing encourages respectful treatment of others like a lynch mob full of hypocrits.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Oh, he's just bent out of shape because he couldn't deny that his lyrics regarding me were sexually suggestive.

You see, reptilian, bomb throwing provocateurs such as yourself can go on and on and on with this kind of thing because of the degree of subjectivity of the matter and the fact that I cannot possibly prove that the lyrics were not sexually suggestive. The fact that they were not (in my own mind, when I wrote them) has no bearing on anything because, as an apologist, I'm the target, period.

I can deal with that, but the claims you've made here are defamatory, mean spirited, and, well, the kind of thing a low down, dirty, maggot infested, commie-lib, good for nothing bottom feeding apostate would indulge themselves in.

In fact, even without the "apostate" part, the rest still holds together quite well.

Now that he brought it up, I do remember him making questionable comments to other female posters, such as moniker. (here's a thread in which she listed all the suggestive things he said about her:
viewtopic.php?p=157878#p157878 )

Same old material. You will notice that this was not a suggestive innuendo or reference, but a jab at her having been a stripper. I apologized to her for that immediately, and she accepted that apology, as I recall.

This is the only other reference, since this board's inception, that beastie can produce.

Bottom feeding...and, it appears, loving it.

But since droopy isn't an up and coming apologist, and actually not particularly a favorite of the notable apologists, his case is entirely different and not worth derailing this thread.

The David Bokovoy Glee Club at the MADboards doesn't like me much, its true, but not because of anything I've ever said in an apologetic context (I don't consider my ongoing dust ups with David as being "apologetic" in the normal sense of that term).

Simon Belmont wrote:This has got to be one of the fastest populating threads to have ever graced MDB. I mean, 5 pages in one day?

That's what you get when you throw chum in the water, a feeding frenzy.

Its rather the nature of the place, and of anti-Mormonism as a psychological/spiritual phenomenon.

harmony wrote:

wenglund wrote:There is no one better than you to mind the busness between Will and God.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

The target is kinda in the middle, Wade. I'm doing my best to help Will, as any Christian would.

Yes, that was the same kind of spirit driving the Salem witch hunts and the inquisitions--Two of the more endearing times in Christian history. You go girl. Make your fellow females proud.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

wenglund wrote:Yes, that was the same kind of spirit driving the Salem witch hunts and the inquisitions--Two of the more endearing times in Christian history. You go girl. Make your fellow females proud.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Incorrect, Wade. The witches and victims of the Inquisitions weren't guilty.

Will's denials notwithstanding, God knows. And thanks to MsJack, so does everyone who reads this thread.

Hey, I had a post moved to the telestial forum for making suggestive remarks about a papyrus scroll. You should have seen the look on that papyrus' face!

harmony wrote:

Droopy wrote:No, however, moral or intellectual credibility. We will never know the answer to this because the evidence, such as it was, apparently does not now exist, and because the source of the claim cannot possibly be trusted as a credible source of such a claim about another individual.

Move along...

God knows, Droopy. You aren't in the loop.

Let's go back, what, 5, 8, 10 years. All the way back to ZLMB. You've been quite clear about at least two things that long ago caught my attention and the attention of others.

The first is that you continue to hold and renew Temple recommends, and apparently attend the Temple at least now and then.

The second is that you do not accept or support, and have long been highly critical of, virtually every core doctrine, truth claim, program/policy of the LDS Church. You have been bitterly critical and fierce in your berating of virtually all general authorities of the Church, on intellectual, psychological, and ethical grounds, but with particular venom aimed at specific individuals.

Third, the above two states of affairs do not harmonize well with each other, and indeed, would seem to be utterly incongruous unless a hypothesis is considered, which hypothesis is that the answers you give to the questions asked of you during the Temple recommend interviews are not the same answers you would give if you were to answer them here, or answer them to others without authority to withhold the recommend and who you could reasonably be certain would not pass those answers along to those who may transfer those sentiments to your ecclesiastical authorities.

That's it, shaken, not stirred.

God knows. Denials mean nothing in the face of that.

The point is, you have no ethical credibility. See above.

Droopy wrote:

This is completely untrue

Very well. Provide us with an example of one, single, core religious truth claim, unique to the Church (a clear manifestation of the Restoration aspect of the Church) that you accept as true and relevant to your salvation.

A second question occurs to me. Do you believe in the concept of "exaltation" and the "continuation of the lives?"

Off topic. Start a new thread.

God knows, Will. Denial is fruitless. Repent while you still can.

Would you say, Harmony, that almost complete apostasy from the restored gospel of Jesus Christ would require sincere and deep repentance?

Surely you know the process... acknowledge the sin, confess to your bishop, ask for forgiveness from those you have wronged, make restitution, vow to cease and desist...

And I now then invite you to begin that very process...

Pride, Will... the source of all other sins.

Yes...the irony here is beginning to actually make my knees wobbly.

God will not be mocked.

But Mephistopheles has his mockers. We know some of them.

Don't we?