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DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:42 pm
by _Infymus
Wait, so are we back to believing that the Lamanites and Nephites were real?

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/2081 ... urney-real

Warning, large forehead.

For many years, Latter-day Saint scholars and travelers — including Hugh Nibley, Ross Christensen, Lynn and Hope Hilton, Warren Aston, George Potter, and S. Kent Brown — have studied the question of Lehi's route through Arabia from Jerusalem to Old World "Bountiful," where he and his party built a boat and sailed for the Americas. Their books and academic articles have reached a few interested readers.

Since 2006, however, a larger audience has been able to see the likely setting for much of 1 Nephi. They don't actually feel the staggering heat and harsh, whipping winds of the Arabian desert, but "Journey of Faith," filmed on location in Israel, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Oman, represents the next best thing to being there. The story becomes vividly real.


I like this quote because I'm sure they're betting on it:

The film takes its audience to locations that few Latter-day Saints will ever visit


Ok, so we're back to it being Guatemala?

A sequel, "Journey of Faith: The New World," appeared in 2007. Filmed, like its predecessor, on location — this time in the steamy jungles of Guatemala and Mexico — and featuring interviews with 32 scholars, it, too, runs 90 minutes. It covers the much larger American portion of the Book of Mormon story, accompanied by breathtaking footage of lush vegetation, rugged volcanoes, ancient ruins and Mayan art.


32 scholars eh? I'm betting they are all card carrying Mormons who will start with the Book of Mormon is true and walk backwards. No other self respecting scholar would head down to Guatemala and put their reputation on the line - that the Book of Mormon is a true account of the history of North and South America, that all the descendants of the natives used to be white Jewish settlers that wrote in reformed Egyptian - and brought with and used horses, wheat, honey bees, steel, chariots...

Ah yes, the Mayans were Lamanites, even though LDS leaders are moving away from who the Lamanites really were.

The sequel addresses temples, political structures, warfare, the likely location of the City of Nephi, the significance of Mesoamerican pyramids, chronological parallels between the development of Mesoamerican culture and events in the Book of Mormon, cultural similarities and differences between Maya and Book of Mormon peoples, and the possibility that a volcanic storm was the actual cause of the destruction described in 3 Nephi.


Mormons will eat this up and Daniel Peterson is selling this crap like snake oil.

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Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:51 pm
by _jon
It covers the much larger American portion of the Book of Mormon story, accompanied by breathtaking footage of lush vegetation, rugged volcanoes, ancient ruins and Mayan art.


Wait...'Mayan art'...<frowns>...you mean they ain't found Nephite art yet...?

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:01 pm
by _Chap
jon wrote:
It covers the much larger American portion of the Book of Mormon story, accompanied by breathtaking footage of lush vegetation, rugged volcanoes, ancient ruins and Mayan art.


Wait...'Mayan art'...<frowns>...you mean they ain't found no Nephite art yet?


To save time:

The official FAIR-approved answer is "How would you know what Nephite art looked like? So how do you know that you haven't already found it?"

Answers such as "Well, it might show people riding in horse-drawn chariots carrying swords, and it might have inscriptions in a script related to Egyptian or Hebrew" have long been shown to be completely inadmissible. I can't be bothered to give you references to the many articles in which this is all explained. Do your own research, apostates.

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:02 pm
by _Simon Belmont
Infymus wrote:Warning, large forehead.


Why are you such a jerk?

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:06 pm
by _jon
Simon Belmont wrote:
Infymus wrote:Warning, large forehead.


Why are you such a jerk?

To be fair to Infymus, it is a shockingly large forehead...

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:10 pm
by _Joseph
and the movie FARGO made Jerry Lundegard and Margie Gunderson 'real' too.

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:13 pm
by _Simon Belmont
jon wrote:To be fair to Infymus, it is a shockingly large forehead...


Have you seen Infymus's? He has no room to talk.

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:19 pm
by _stemelbow
You know I've never really noticed these videos. Now I want to see them. thanks.

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:32 pm
by _Infymus
jon wrote:
It covers the much larger American portion of the Book of Mormon story, accompanied by breathtaking footage of lush vegetation, rugged volcanoes, ancient ruins and Mayan art.


Wait...'Mayan art'...<frowns>...you mean they ain't found Nephite art yet...?


I'm pretty sure they will make sweeping generalizations without any real evidence. They will use words like "most likely", "probably", "could be". And then the credits will roll showing all of the so-called "scholars", most of them probably hand picked off MST with DCP leading the pack.

This kind of tripe cracks me up. If you took it and showed it to the scientific community outside of the Morridor, it be laughed right out of the theater.

The film only serves to try and insulate Mormons. I think it will backfire. I think it will get Mormons onto the Internet searching for more information - and they will end up seeing very conflicting information. It will be the catalyst for so many of them in questioning their own faith.

Mormonism is unraveling in this information age.

Re: DCP: "Film makes Lehi's journey real"

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:43 pm
by _harmony
Infymus wrote: If you took it and showed it to the scientific community outside of the Morridor, it be laughed right out of the theater.


I suspect if you showed it to the "scientific" community [inside the I-15 corridor, you'd have the same result.

Is this being shown in theaters?