DiscussMormonism.com

Deseret Cattle & Fruit
- 500 billion gallons of rain fall the ranch receives annually (1.5 times the volume of Utah Lake)
- 290-300,000 acres (450 sq. miles)
•165,000 acres of pasture land
•75,000 acres of wetlands
•60,000 acres of timber
•1,700 acres of citrus orchards (producing 50 million 8 oz glasses of orange juice annually)
•920 acres of row crops (450 acres of potatoes for Frito Lay Chips)
- 44,000 cows
- 33,000 calves born annually
- 1,400 bulls
- 1,400 miles of fencing
- 380+ documented species of vertebrate animals- many threatened or endangered

•245 birds
•53 fish
•33 reptiles
•31 mammals
•20 amphibians
- 90 employees
- 61 years of operation (acquired in 1950)
- 45 hunting clubs have rights to use land

in comparison the Church spent $0 dollars of tithing helping with humanitarian aid...

500,000,000,000 gallons / 450 sq mi = 63.9 inches of annual rainfall.

Where is this land located?



Maybe in eastern Washington or the deep south...

If the land is mostly located in Utah and Idaho then I would expect much less.

Florida, it's in Florida

Deseret Cattle & Fruit
- 500 billion gallons of rain fall the ranch receives annually (1.5 times the volume of Utah Lake)
- 290-300,000 acres (450 sq. miles)
•165,000 acres of pasture land
•75,000 acres of wetlands
•60,000 acres of timber
•1,700 acres of citrus orchards (producing 50 million 8 oz glasses of orange juice annually)
•920 acres of row crops (450 acres of potatoes for Frito Lay Chips)
- 44,000 cows
- 33,000 calves born annually
- 1,400 bulls
- 1,400 miles of fencing
- 380+ documented species of vertebrate animals- many threatened or endangered

•245 birds
•53 fish
•33 reptiles
•31 mammals
•20 amphibians
- 90 employees
- 61 years of operation (acquired in 1950)
- 45 hunting clubs have rights to use land

I have no problem with this.

in comparison the Church spent $0 dollars of tithing helping with humanitarian aid...

Not true, but whatever the Church spends on humanitarian aid outside the Church, even if zero, doesn't affect my testimony or drive my expectations either way in the least.

bcspace wrote:

Deseret Cattle & Fruit
- 500 billion gallons of rain fall the ranch receives annually (1.5 times the volume of Utah Lake)
- 290-300,000 acres (450 sq. miles)
•165,000 acres of pasture land
•75,000 acres of wetlands
•60,000 acres of timber
•1,700 acres of citrus orchards (producing 50 million 8 oz glasses of orange juice annually)
•920 acres of row crops (450 acres of potatoes for Frito Lay Chips)
- 44,000 cows
- 33,000 calves born annually
- 1,400 bulls
- 1,400 miles of fencing
- 380+ documented species of vertebrate animals- many threatened or endangered

•245 birds
•53 fish
•33 reptiles
•31 mammals
•20 amphibians
- 90 employees
- 61 years of operation (acquired in 1950)
- 45 hunting clubs have rights to use land

I have no problem with this.

in comparison the Church spent $0 dollars of tithing helping with humanitarian aid...

Not true, but whatever the Church spends on humanitarian aid outside the Church, even if zero, doesn't affect my testimony or drive my expectations either way in the least.

Since I don't pay tithing, I don't care how the church spends it either. However, if I did pay tithing, I would care how it was spent, just as I care how my taxes are spent.

Since I don't pay tithing, I don't care how the church spends it either. However, if I did pay tithing, I would care how it was spent, just as I care how my taxes are spent.

Sure. But the amount of spending on humanitarian aid outside the Church doesn't matter to me. It's not a sign of it's truthfulness nor of Gospel example.

I would say the Church and this ranch has been a good thing:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=15602133

No probs here, in terms of where my tithing money is spent.

bcspace wrote:

Since I don't pay tithing, I don't care how the church spends it either. However, if I did pay tithing, I would care how it was spent, just as I care how my taxes are spent.

Sure. But the amount of spending on humanitarian aid outside the Church doesn't matter to me. It's not a sign of it's truthfulness nor of Gospel example.

In other words, the only people worthy of Church humanitarian aid are Mormons. Mormons are required to give not receive. What is the Church to do with all that money?

What is the Church to do with all that money?
****************************

Shopping malls and pay raises for Gods Chosen 15?

I agree with the other poster, much of the land is in Florida.