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My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:31 am
by _zeezrom
A very good friend of mine (cion) just got banned on MDD because of his affinity to HM. This is a worse banning than Zeezrom's because apparently cion can't even view the board as a guest while I can.

Here is the thread: http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/543 ... ge__st__40 Interestingly, there was a newcomer that had similar experiences with HM and was sad to find out the missionaries didn't like the idea of praying to HM.

Are MDD folks afraid that too much is being said about HM? Why the fear?

The last post he made was on the thread asking if it's a sin to pray to HM.

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:34 am
by _bcspace
cion's posts didn't look like discussion to me. More like propaganda for a false doctrine.

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:45 am
by _zeezrom
This newcomer, MelissaBK, seemed to appreciate the concepts being discussed. If the idea of HM brings comfort, why hide from it? What are LDS afraid of? How is it false doctrine to express interest and devotion to her? It is true doctrine that HF is married, no?

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:10 pm
by _Nightlion
zeezrom wrote:A very good friend of mine (cion) just got banned on MDD because of his affinity to HM. This is a worse banning than Zeezrom's because apparently cion can't even view the board as a guest while I can.

Here is the thread: http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/543 ... ge__st__40 Interestingly, there was a newcomer that had similar experiences with HM and was sad to find out the missionaries didn't like the idea of praying to HM.

Are MDD folks afraid that too much is being said about HM? Why the fear?

The last post he made was on the thread asking if it's a sin to pray to HM.


Everyone on MDD is a secret Muirist. They all know how I set the doctrine of the Church in order and do not want to be embarrassed further. Beside that any mention these days of HM causes false prophet Christopher N alarms to go off.

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:20 pm
by _Nightlion
zeezrom wrote:This newcomer, MelissaBK, seemed to appreciate the concepts being discussed. If the idea of HM brings comfort, why hide from it? What are LDS afraid of? How is it false doctrine to express interest and devotion to her? It is true doctrine that HF is married, no?


Dear Zees, have you never read a single word I have written? Adam and Eve are the parents of our spirit bodies. Exaltation is the continuation of the seed(s), plural, two kinds of seeds one is the physical, after they enter the Garden and fall, and the second type is spiritual, after they lay down their lives and are raised up a spiritual body in the resurrection, subject to Christ, and can continue with the spiritual seeds, ONCE AGAIN!

Thus we read how God made man in his own likeness and image male and female and commanded that they multiply and gave them a world and THEY WERE ALREADY MARRIED for there is no mention of this. So if they were already married before they were 'MADE' then they had to of been married from where ever they were before they got MADE or resurrected.

In the mean time. The Eternal Father, which included Christ and the Holy Ghost were preparing organized intelligences to inhabit the spirit bodies that Adam and Ever were about to make a host of. When God, (all three) call upon the light of truth and command that the intelligences come forth to their respective organizational spheres of existence, (see D&C 93) that is when and where all three become the Maker and Very Eternal Father of all things. Not just that of man but all creation, even the intelligences that become worlds, stars and thus they are the Father of lights as well.

That is the real God and there are no mothers over on the organization of intelligences. It is all done by the wordl of his power which are his commandments and are spiritual for everything they do is according to the word of their power which is how Gods do what they do so well.

So if you pray to the mother of your spirit body you are praying to Eve and only embarrassing her. Stop it.

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:29 pm
by _Nightlion
zeezrom wrote:This newcomer, MelissaBK, seemed to appreciate the concepts being discussed. If the idea of HM brings comfort, why hide from it? What are LDS afraid of? How is it false doctrine to express interest and devotion to her? It is true doctrine that HF is married, no?


Dear Zees, have you never read a single word I have written? Adam and Eve are the parents of our spirit bodies. Exaltation is the continuation of the seed(s), plural, two kinds of seeds, one is the physical, after they enter the Garden and fall, and the second type is spiritual, after they lay down their lives and are raised up a spiritual body in the resurrection, subject to Christ, and can continue with the spiritual seeds, ONCE AGAIN!

Thus we read how God made man in his own likeness and image male and female and commanded that they multiply and gave them a world and THEY WERE ALREADY MARRIED for there is no mention of this. So if they were already married before they were 'MADE' then they had to of been married from where ever they were before they got MADE or resurrected.

In the mean time. The Eternal Father, which included Christ and the Holy Ghost were preparing organized intelligences to inhabit the spirit bodies that Adam and Ever were about to make a host of. When God, (all three) called upon the Light of Truth and command that the intelligences come forth to their respective organizational spheres of existence, (see D&C 93) that is when and where all three become the Maker and Very Eternal Father of all things. Not just that of man but all creation, even the intelligences that become worlds or stars and thus they are the Father of lights as well.

That is the real God and there are no mothers over on the organization of intelligences side of our PRE_EXISTENCE. It is all done by the word of his power which are his commandments and are spiritual for everything they do is according to the word of their power which is how Gods do what they do so well. Think of it as a pre-existence before the pre-existence for as D&C 29 teaches there are four.....count them.......4 stages of creation. Two in the beginning, meaning two separate existences in the pre-earth realms and two after the fall, physical birth and then resurrection.

Lightweight, recreational, uninspired, casual, I care not a fig how it is, (Brigham) not thought through LDS theology is a perpetual casualty to the truth. Gentiles! GAWL.

So if you pray to the mother of your spirit body you are praying to Eve and only embarrassing her. Stop it.

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 5:42 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Hello,

If women possess the Priesthood after this life what is the problem with praying to the Feminine?

V/R
Dr. Cam

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:15 pm
by _harmony
Nightlion wrote:Thus we read how God made man in his own likeness and image male and female and commanded that they multiply and gave them a world and THEY WERE ALREADY MARRIED for there is no mention of this.


So because there is no mention of such a marriage, you assume it had already taken place? Why not assume it never took place?

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 7:09 pm
by _zeezrom
Nightlion,

I don't get why Eve would be embarrassed.

Re: My good friend got banned - too much HM

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:47 am
by _Nightlion
zeezrom wrote:Nightlion,

I don't get why Eve would be embarrassed.


Because she honors that one who is worthy of all honor, glory and worship.