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Nomad wrote:

If I remember right, Schryver and his wife are, at this very moment, in a jet flying to Europe for a couple weeks.

Now, how do you respond to the OP?

Have a nice flight!

Given Will's usual manner of discourse, it's a huge stretch to try and claim that he "actually" meant the more benign, banal definition. (And it's really kind of laughable how often the apologists are leaning on the tu quoque logical fallacy throughout this whole debacle.)

Nomads next task is justifying Hitlers invasion of Poland and Japans bombing of Pearl Harbor.

Better hold on to your crotch Will/Nomad, because this is going to hurt. And bcspace might want to get ready to scurry off again after reading the following...


Will Schryver previously stated:

By the way, I for one am quite confident that most of you losers here in the Trailer Park are shameless buggerers. Else why your proclivity for the orgiastic circle jerks in which you all enthusiastically participate? Like this thread, for example. Graham tosses out the biscuit, and you're all in a circle on a moment's notice

Urban dictionary notes that people often confuse the "limp biscuit" game with circle jerks:

"*NOT* when a group of males stand in a circle to jerk off onto a cookie or anything of the sort. That retarded frat game is called "Limp Biscuit"... which kind of indirectly explains why the band of the same namesake is so damned horrible.

So thanks to Will's "biscuit" comment, there can be no doubt what Will meant in this context.

In another example Will says,

And of course you'd regard my most recent work as "increasingly obnoxious." After all, you've never been averse to taking your place right in the middle of the circle, heartily pounding out an approving beat for each and every orgiastic excess. You belong here.

According to Urban Dictionary the circle jerk also refers to:

A fraternity initiation ritual or hazing whereby the lights are turned off. The plege or pledges are told it's a circle jerk. The actives pound their fists together in the darkness simulating the sound of jerking off. The lights are then turned on suddenly and the pledge or pledges are the only ones in the circle with their dicks out.

Hence, there can be no doubt what Will was referring to when he says "pounding out an approving beat."

We can also be confident in this meaning because Will uses the word "orgiastic." Urban Dictionary on the word Orgiastic:

The new word replacing "horny" the same definition but different word. cause horny blows. Spread the word that horny is out.

Urban Dictionary defines Orgy:

1.Sex party involving many partners
2. A party where many people engage in sex at the same time.
3. A large group of people screwing togethe
4... you get the point

Urban Dictionary defines Circle Jerk many ways too:

1. When a group of males sit in a circle, jerking each other off.
2. When a bunch of blowhards - usually politicians - get together for a debate but usually end up agreeing with each other's viewpoints to the point of redundancy, stroking each other's egos as if they were extensions of their genitals (ergo, the mastubatory insinuation).
3. A masturbation party; can be with guys or girls. Everyone usually sits in a circle and jacks off in the company of other people.
4. Group masturbation, usually males, sitting or standing in a circle jerking themselves or each other off.
5. You get the point...

So nice try Will/Nomad.

Much gratitude to the Three Stooges (Cam, Scratch, and Graham) for unwittingly underscoring my point.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Underscoring the point that Nomad/Will is a liar, and that the usual "useful idiots" would blindly carry on alongside him in support, no matter what the evidence reveals?

I just proved, beyond any doubt whatsoever, that Will used the term circle jerk in a sexual manner. The context doesn't lie, even if Will/Nomad does.

wenglund wrote:Much gratitude to the Three Stooges (Cam, Scratch, and Graham) for unwittingly underscoring my point.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

We should all learn a valuable lesson here - no matter what is said in any conversation, it only proves Wade's point.

Much gratitude to the Three Stooges (Cam, Scratch, and Graham) for unwittingly underscoring my point.

Quite predictable wasn't it? Pavlov did some good science......

This just gets better and better folks...

In the context of his "orgiastic circle jerk" comment, Will calls us a bunch of "buggerers" which might go over the heads of anyone not familiar with British or Austrailian slang. Urban dictionary defines the verb bugger as follows:

1. Technically means to sodomize, but most people use the word in a variety of situations, often without realizing the true meaning.

2. Australian, derived from buggering, which means anal intercourse. Now mostly used as a slang word as an exclamation of surprise or discontent. May be used to refer to a creature or human.

3. To sodomize someone.

4. vb. the act of committing sodomy
n. person who commits sodomy (n.), ie. has anal intercourse.

Have fun defending that wade. Quickly, claim this was all part of yoru trap, and we were stupid enough to fall into it.

I'm going to comment just once here and then be done with the whole Schryver soap opera, which has gone on far too long and, frankly, just isn't very interesting.

While it's entirely possible that Will's repeated use of sexual double-entendres and other crude imagery stems from beastie's lone use of "incestuous," it's been clear to me that Will took beastie's post as an invitation to use ever-cruder and explicit imagery in his posts. Of course, when called on it, Will has done exactly what Nomad has done in suggesting that he was not being crude at all but using acceptable slang for different intellectual habits and pursuits.

But it's been obvious since the beginning that Will's been playing a rather childish game, trying to see how far he can go in using crude language and imagery while still plausibly proclaiming that his usage is entirely innocent and anyone who objects is engaging in a jihad-like vendetta of character assassination.

Back when I was in middle school, several boys in my ward took to using "faulcon" as an adjective, as in, "You are a faulcon idiot." When others, such as Sunday School teachers, suggested that this was way too close to profanity, they professed their innocence and suggested that it was the teachers who had dirty minds. This is exactly what Will has been doing here, and everyone recognizes this, even his defenders.

The boys in my ward thought they were being quite witty, as Will clearly thinks he has been. He enjoys offending people and then responding with this faux-innocent act. He would not act this way if he did not hold most of us in extreme contempt, but we are quite beneath any respect from him.

But Will has found out the hard way that our behavior often comes back to haunt us. Heaven knows some of my worst moments have been dredged up time and again, but I understand that. I have apologized for my bad behavior each time someone has brought it up. And I accept that some things I have written would disqualify me from publishing in certain places. That is life, and it does not reflect some kind of jihad against me any more than MsJack's thread is an unfair piece of propaganda.

I'll say once more that I will be disappointed if Will's KEP material is not published. But if his writing here has blocked the publication, he really has no one to blame but himself.