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Christ's Church
“He inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none”2 NEPHI 26: 33

Speaking from an eternal perspective, Mormons don't believe "homosexuals" actually exist.

Reminds me of a line from Angels in America:

[LDS Woman to a gay man]: "In my church, we don't believe in homosexuls."

[Gay man responds]: "In my church, we don't believe in Mormons."

Darin

Christ's Church
“He inviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none”2 NEPHI 26: 33

That is correct. He also invites them to repent of their sins and cannot save people in their sins. Homosexuality is merely one of a myriad of possible sins.

[Gay man responds]: "In my church, we don't believe in Mormons."

Creating one's own church is the appropriate response for not accepting LDS doctrine.

bcspace wrote:
Creating one's own church is the appropriate response for not accepting LDS doctrine.

I hope God will repent soon for forcing so many into sin.

mr space wrote: "Homosexuality is merely one of a myriad of possible sins."

Is homosexuality a sin, or is acting on the impulses?

Didn't Dallin Oaks say that it was the act, not the inclination?

And how does the baloney of 'if you think it then it is as bad as doing it' come in? By that reasoning (from his postings) tubbyDannyPeterman is a murderer.

bcspace wrote:Creating one's own church is the appropriate response for not accepting LDS doctrine.

What a strange and silly response.

There are millions of members of other Faiths, most of which pre-date and are far older than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that don't accept "LDS doctrine"--and didn't need to "create one's own church" in order to do so...

Darin

[Gay man responds]: "In my church, we don't believe in Mormons."

Creating one's own church is the appropriate response for not accepting LDS doctrine.

What a strange and silly response.

Only to those who believe their much sillier repsonse is actually serious.

bcspace wrote:Only to those who believe their much sillier repsonse is actually serious.

What part of "There are millions of members of other Faiths, most of which pre-date and are far older than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that don't accept "LDS doctrine"--and didn't need to "create one's own church" in order to do so..." did you find to be factually incorrect and/or non-serious?

Darin

Darin.... I know you don't want to hear it, but homosexuality is a "deviation", a perversion of the natural order, thus a sin.

There are many other kinds of sins people suffer from, "crosses" others bear, that are not homosexual based but based on other "temptations", temptations just as strong as homosexual desires, but they are "deviation" as well. I know what I'm talking about because I have a strong deviation, cross that I bear, which is contra to what I know to be right, moral, etc.

Just because you and yours have made homosexuality "normal", doesn't mean it's anymore normal or more importantly RIGHT than any other sin and temptation of the flesh. You don't want to hear it, but pedophiles FEEL exactly like you, as well as every other deviation you can think of. That "feeling" doesn't make right.

Yes, your cross is a difficult one, it is in your every fiber and being, I know what that's like, but for another sin, but that doesn't make it anymore right for you to both do but especially promote as right and normal. It is especially even more wrong for the gay agenda to force their deviation on both society and the Church. Your personal "choice" is one thing, but your direct and flagrant confrontations against Gods Kingdom will undue you and/or those who have such agendas even more.

I have no right to force my cross onto the world and the Church as "normal" and acceptable than you do..... You have been deceived.

Obiwan wrote:Darin.... I know you don't want to hear it, but homosexuality is a "deviation", a perversion of the natural order, thus a sin.

There are many other kinds of sins people suffer from, "crosses" others bear, that are not homosexual based but based on other "temptations", temptations just as strong as homosexual desires, but they are "deviation" as well. I know what I'm talking about because I have a strong deviation, cross that I bear, which is contra to what I know to be right, moral, etc.

Just because you and yours have made homosexuality "normal", doesn't mean it's anymore normal or more importantly RIGHT than any other sin and temptation of the flesh. You don't want to hear it, but pedophiles FEEL exactly like you, as well as every other deviation you can think of. That "feeling" doesn't make right.

Yes, your cross is a difficult one, it is in your every fiber and being, I know what that's like, but for another sin, but that doesn't make it anymore right for you to both do but especially promote as right and normal. It is especially even more wrong for the gay agenda to force their deviation on both society and the Church. Your personal "choice" is one thing, but your direct and flagrant confrontations against Gods Kingdom will undue you and/or those who have such agendas even more.

I have no right to force my cross onto the world and the Church as "normal" and acceptable than you do..... You have been deceived.

Obiwan, you have my sympathy. Coping with a natural attraction for the same sex whilst being a member of a Church that actively discriminates against people must be more than a test. I agree with you that someone should not force their cross onto the world, but surely you see that the Church's involvement in Proposition 8 was exactly that. The Church trying to force it's organizational viewpoint on same sex partnerships on people who aren't members.

Also bear in mind, it is natural to be black, but the Church still discriminated - or perhaps you believe it was God who cursed them with that colour skin....

I hope you wake up to the suppression and victimization that your Church is levying against you.