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Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:18 pm
by _Polygamy-Porter

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:26 pm
by _just me
Hmmm.

I think the bigger the deal they make of it the worse it's gonna get. They just need to stop obsessing about it. Seriously.
I am sure that gambling is a problem for a percentage of the church as well and I never hear about that. Ever.

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:36 pm
by _CaliforniaKid
"Pornography: How to lose your humanity"

Sheesh.

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:37 pm
by _Spurven Ten Sing
Click this page: http://www.outinthelight.com/resources/ask-the-expert#1
How dishonest and misleading of the church.

Look at how the Q and A section is set up. First we find the introduction:

In this section, you will find questions that are often asked when a woman finds out that her husband is viewing pornography. We will post more questions and answers in the future, so please check back soon.

OK, the questions on the page are purported to be about a woman finding out her husband has a pulse. Anyways, first question:
Q: Is casual consumption of pornography a problem?

A: From Dr. Jill Manning’s point of view, pornography use to any degree, even if it involves one exposure, can be problematic if it:
1. Violates trust within a relationship
2. Puts employment or school admission at risk
3. Fuels global demand for this material
4. Reinforces or introduces beliefs which promote misogynistic views and attitudes
5. Is incongruent with religious or personal values and/or commitments
6. Increases the risk that children in the home will be exposed
7. Decreases well-being


—Jill C. Manning a marriage and family therapist based in Colorado who has testified before Congress on the harms of pornography


OK so far. Nothing really bad, right? Next comes a line and the rest of the questions. Here is the first question:
Q: I didn’t know that my husband was a sex addict. Is something wrong with me?

A: Nothing is wrong with you. The majority of women who seek treatment after learning of their husband’s addiction did not know that their partners were struggling with a sexual addiction. However, many women report that they felt that something was not “quite right” in the relationship. Addiction thrives in secrecy. Many men with this problem have become experts at hiding it from their spouses.

What? When did we start talking about sex addiction? Is this the advice section for women dealing with a husband who has a high speed internet connection or sex addiction? Moving on:
Q: Why would my husband hide this from me?

A: Most men hide their sexual addiction from their wives out of embarrassment, deep shame, and fear that disclosure will lead to divorce and the loss of the family. They can become so deeply entrenched in feelings of despair and self-loathing that they are unable to imagine disclosing their addictive secret to their partner. They get caught in the addictive trap of believing that it is something that they must resolve on their own.

Again with the sex addiction? Surely this Q and A section is about porn, right? Check it out:

Q: My partner has lied to me in the past about his sexual addiction. How will I ever know if he is telling the truth?

A: You may not be able to tell. But if your husband seeks support and counseling you can be confident that he is being held accountable, supported, and encouraged to tell the truth. Over time many women report that they are able to trust again due to the openness and transparency that their husbands have learned in recovery.


Q: Is this somehow my fault?

A: This question is evidence of one of the most damaging consequences of addiction for the partner. Many women fear that they were somehow not “enough” in the marriage and consequently their husbands turned to porn and sexual addiction. Unfortunately, some men reinforce this fear in a misguided effort to place the blame on their wife instead of accepting the responsibility for their own behavior. The majority of sexual addicts had problems with sexual compulsivity before they were married. As the partner of an addict, you are not responsible for the sexual addiction. It is not your fault
.

Q: Who should I tell?

A: Choosing to share that your partner has a sexual addiction is a personal decision and will vary according to your individual circumstances. It is recommended that you join a 12-step or a “Partners of Sex Addicts” therapy group where you can freely share and receive support. Where possible, share with a trusted spiritual leader or clergy. If you choose to share with family and/or friends, choose those whom you can trust to be understanding and supportive of you and your partner. It is important to share only with those individuals who are mature enough to allow you the time to make decisions that you feel are best for you and your family without giving unsolicited advice and asserting undue pressure.


So far all about sexual addiction, which I am POSITIVE is not the same as porn usage. How about some more:

Q: Should we tell our children?
A: Generally speaking, no–at least not at first. If possible, it is best to give yourselves some time to sort through and try to manage the trauma that the disclosure has caused you and your spouse without bringing children into the situation. Later, as you and your partner become more stable, you can counsel with a therapist or clergy about telling the children, guided by what is in the best interest of the children and their ages.

This is where it gets really strange. What idiot sits their children down and breaks the news to them that daddy is looking at large numbers of peach colored pixels. I really hope we are talking about sex addiction and not porn here. More:
Q: Is there recovery from sexual addiction?
A: Yes, recovery is possible. It takes time and hard work, especially in the first year, but with guided help the sex addict can experience restoration in their emotional, relational, sexual, financial and even spiritual lives.

Back to sex addiction thing. More:
Q: What if I can’t be supportive of my husband right now?
A: Finding out about an addiction can be a devastating and disorienting experience for women. It is important that you take the steps to take care of yourself and your own healing. By doing so you will eventually be able to be supportive of your husband, if that is what you choose.

OK. Moving on:
Q: What can I do to be supportive of my husband?
A: The best thing you can do is to seek support for yourself. A counselor, a spiritual leader, or a therapy or 12-step group can assist you in understanding what you can do to be helpful while not taking on the responsibility of your husband’s recovery. Another way to be supportive is to get educated about addiction. Education will help you see your husband’s addictive behaviors in a clearer light. Encourage your husband to seek help. Many men in recovery attend a 12-step group, a counseling group and see an individual therapist as well as their spiritual leader in dealing with addiction. Disclosing a sexual addiction is merely the starting point for recovery, not the ending point.

Q: Where can we turn for help?
A: When seeking help look for a professional who is trained and experienced in working with sexual addiction and compulsivity. Many clergy or spiritual leaders have access to resources for sexual addiction 12-step programs for addicts and partners. Nonprofit organizations such as SAlifeline.org are good resources for helping individuals find an appropriate therapist and/or a 12-step group.


OK, I am pretty sure this Q and A section is about sexual addiction, not porn usage. Yet it is listed as a Q and A section for the poor woman who stumbles in on a humiliated hubby. Are we given to believe that porn and SA are interchangeable? Or perhaps of similar seriousness? That is some messed up crap right there.

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:38 pm
by _harmony
This is what happens when old men are in charge.

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:39 pm
by _just me
Here is a Q&A from the site:

Q: Is casual consumption of pornography a problem?

A: From Dr. Jill Manning’s point of view, pornography use to any degree, even if it involves one exposure, can be problematic if it:
1. Violates trust within a relationship
2. Puts employment or school admission at risk
3. Fuels global demand for this material
4. Reinforces or introduces beliefs which promote misogynistic views and attitudes
5. Is incongruent with religious or personal values and/or commitments
6. Increases the risk that children in the home will be exposed
7. Decreases well-being


Kinda hilarious to see that misogynistic attitudes are considered a problem.

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:42 pm
by _Polygamy-Porter
just me wrote:Here is a Q&A from the site:

Q: Is casual consumption of pornography a problem?

A: From Dr. Jill Manning’s point of view, pornography use to any degree, even if it involves one exposure, can be problematic if it:
1. Violates trust within a relationship
2. Puts employment or school admission at risk
3. Fuels global demand for this material
4. Reinforces or introduces beliefs which promote misogynistic views and attitudes
5. Is incongruent with religious or personal values and/or commitments
6. Increases the risk that children in the home will be exposed
7. Decreases well-being


Kinda hilarious to see that misogynistic attitudes are considered a problem.


Hmmm... so could it be said that men with outward misogynistic views and attitudes are also porn addict?

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:46 pm
by _EAllusion
CaliforniaKid wrote:"Pornography: How to lose your humanity"

Sheesh.
If you didn't read the article, the core argument is, "In other words, pornography users became less capable of intimacy, kindness, mercy, sympathy, empathy, emotional connection and closeness, compassion and nurturing, which are the core elements of our humanity."

I'm saving this website to bring up in other forums just to point out this mentality exists.

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:56 pm
by _CaliforniaKid
EAllusion wrote:If you didn't read the article, the core argument is, "In other words, pornography users became less capable of intimacy, kindness, mercy, sympathy, empathy, emotional connection and closeness, compassion and nurturing, which are the core elements of our humanity."

I particularly liked the part where they cited the content of "the most disgusting [single porn video] on the market" and treated it as if it were programmatic for the entire industry.

Re: Mo'Porn such huge problem that LDS Inc launches new website

Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:56 pm
by _Droopy
Polygamy-Porter wrote:http://www.outinthelight.com/

Seriously?


Yes, and hence, not for you PP.