Wade leaving David out of it
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:29 am
In response to David Bokovoy coming here to lay the rumors of his involvement in the Schryver affair to rest, Wade offers the following generous words:
Then he tells us that he, like David, has received an anonymous email, but his source, which he does not quote, implicates many members of MDB in a supposed conspiracy to prevent Schryver's articles from being published by the NAMI.
Does Wade really accept David's story? It seems to me that he is kind of insinuating that David's email was not credible, like maybe David made the whole thing up, and only our preference for David over Wade and Will makes us accept David's post.
My suspicions that he does not trust or believe David only deepens when he later writes the following:
Droopy assumes that both Wade and David received the same tip about the alleged conspiracy:
Which, given Wade's atrociously opaque writing, is understandable.
Wade, hewing to the promise he made to David, continues to keep him out of it:
So, evidently, this source, which did not write David, included David in his email:
How would Bokovoy's name inadvertently reveal the identity of the sender? Was the sender Bokovoy? Is Wade really doing a good job of keeping his promise to David? Granted that Wade is a confused person, I would say he has definitely failed to keep his word by leaving David out of this.
wenglund wrote:I appreciate you posting this, David. Your word is sufficient for me to accept that you lacked involvement. I was simply echoing what others here have suggested. I, personally, will no longer drag you in.
Then he tells us that he, like David, has received an anonymous email, but his source, which he does not quote, implicates many members of MDB in a supposed conspiracy to prevent Schryver's articles from being published by the NAMI.
wenglund wrote:I am under the impression that threats (along the lines of raising a stink in the press and such if the paper were published) were made that influenced the decision to jettison Will's article. I have no impression as to where and how exactly the alleged threats were made or conveyed to the person or persons who made the decision.
Like Bro. Bokovoy, I received an email from a source who will remain anonymous, that essentially said that a group of MDers (including MsJack, harmony, beastie, Kevin Graham, Doctor Scratch, MrStakhanovite, and Spurven Ten Sing, among others), conspired together. They threatened the MI by saying that, if the MI published Will's work, they would go public in a major way with their allegations—contacting newspapers, other ex-Mormon sites, various blogs, etc.
Admittedly, like with David, my source is at best second-hand. However, given the general ready acceptance of David's posts, I trust you all will readily accept mine as well.
Does Wade really accept David's story? It seems to me that he is kind of insinuating that David's email was not credible, like maybe David made the whole thing up, and only our preference for David over Wade and Will makes us accept David's post.
My suspicions that he does not trust or believe David only deepens when he later writes the following:
wenglund wrote:In light of David Bokovoy's earlier post in which he endeavored to establish his "lack of involvement in the affair," I found this comment from Kevin Graham on the mega anti-Will thread to be of interest:Why did you [Will Schryver] panic by writing numerous LDS scholars to find out what was being said about you so you could preempt their efforts? Gee and Hauglid both sent Bokovoy a copy of the email you sent out to them trying to dig for information about what's been said.
If Bokovoy was not involved, why was he being sent these emails? And, how would Kevin Graham know what Bokovoy was sent? And, why is Kish writing to David for confirmation if, again, David lacked involvement?
Droopy assumes that both Wade and David received the same tip about the alleged conspiracy:
Droopy wrote:I'm conflating neither. I'm talking about the letter received by both Wade and David from a source containing a head's up on a possible plan to blackball the MI if they tried to publish any of Will's scholarly work.
Which, given Wade's atrociously opaque writing, is understandable.
Wade, hewing to the promise he made to David, continues to keep him out of it:
Kevin wrote:Wade's informant says nothing about Bokovoy.
wenglund wrote:And you know this how? (I am asking because I know for a fact that it is diametrically incorrect. I simply omitted mentioning that part of the email.)
So, evidently, this source, which did not write David, included David in his email:
wenglund wrote:You obviously assumed incorrectly. Like Bokovoy, I excluded portions of the email that I though might inadvertently reveal the identity of the sender. Bokovoy's name was a part of the excluded portion.
No, not the group I explicitly mentioned. I am saying his name was mentioned in the email, contrary to your false claim.
How would Bokovoy's name inadvertently reveal the identity of the sender? Was the sender Bokovoy? Is Wade really doing a good job of keeping his promise to David? Granted that Wade is a confused person, I would say he has definitely failed to keep his word by leaving David out of this.