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You're lying, as you habitually do. Will's ad hoc insults did not target women as a class; and thoughtful people understand that message board discussions are far too informal to represent a participant's "writing."

I'll grant that a lot of the snippets you dredged up were insulting. The most frequently cited insult, the "circle jerk suite" actually insults men. Your attempt to make a case for "misogyny" therefrom was utterly and cynically dishonest.

For the sake of calling a spade a spade, or to be consistent I feel constrained to say something to you, Pahoran.

While it is true that Mrs. Jack put a lot of effort into attempting to smear William in order to stop discussion of the Book of Abraham issues, he is the one who put his foot in it. He shamed the Church when:
1. He showed up over here to talk to apostates.
2. He did his best to behave but then allowed the worms here to tempt him into responding in their language.
3. He attacked them using horrible language and misogynistic terms.
4. Standing behind his poor use of language.

William Schryver is a brilliant apologist and will certainly continue to redefine the conversation in the future but right now, he is an embarrassment. We as Latter-Day Saints should never try to defend what has been presented on that thread (albeit with malicious intent by a weak minded person). I find what you say here disgusting, Pahoran, and you should watch what you say lest you discredit yourself.

Mrs. Jack, not all LDS think in terms of mindless tribalism, and most would be horrified by what William has written, and at Pahoran's justifications. I will have none of it!

Well said.

Perhaps you are a gentleman after all.

Quick followup: why did you lie to Nemesis about when you wrote that erotica piece? You claimed you had left the church, but it turns out you were an active member and amateur apologist at the time.

PS: kudos for not defending Will's trash, but your attempt at reading Ms. Jack's mind is misguided.

Buffalo wrote:Quick followup: why did you lie to Nemesis about when you wrote that erotica piece? You claimed you had left the church, but it turns out you were an active member and amateur apologist at the time.

I already explained this to beastie. She will vouch for me.

SeattleGhostWriter wrote:

Buffalo wrote:Quick followup: why did you lie to Nemesis about when you wrote that erotica piece? You claimed you had left the church, but it turns out you were an active member and amateur apologist at the time.

I already explained this to beastie. She will vouch for me.

Beastie?

Buffalo wrote:Quick followup: why did you lie to Nemesis about when you wrote that erotica piece? You claimed you had left the church, but it turns out you were an active member and amateur apologist at the time.

PS: kudos for not defending Will's trash, but your attempt at reading Ms. Jack's mind is misguided.

Cut the man a bit of slack, Buffalo. He has just said something we both basically agree with, and which will cause him trouble with some of his co-religionists, as he must have know it would.

Your reference to erotica belongs on another thread.

Your reference to his reading of MsJack is really a bit mean-spirited in my view.

Chap wrote:

Buffalo wrote:Quick followup: why did you lie to Nemesis about when you wrote that erotica piece? You claimed you had left the church, but it turns out you were an active member and amateur apologist at the time.

PS: kudos for not defending Will's trash, but your attempt at reading Ms. Jack's mind is misguided.

Cut the man a bit of slack, Buffalo. He has just said something we both basically agree with, and which will cause him trouble with some of his co-religionists, as he must have know it would.

Your reference to erotica belongs on another thread.

Your reference to his reading of MsJack is really a bit mean-spirited in my view.

You make a good point re: the erotica stuff.

Regarding Ms. Jack, though, my point stands. She did not attempt "to smear William in order to stop discussion of the Book of Abraham issues." She just wanted him to stop sexually harassing women. I think we'd all love for the Book of Abraham issues to continue to be discussed.

SeattleGhostWriter wrote:While it is true that Mrs. Jack put a lot of effort into attempting to smear William

Actually, jack put a lot of effort into documenting Will's smears. There was and is no attempt to smear Will.

... in order to stop discussion of the Book of Abraham issues,

Actually, no. Book of Abraham issues continue to have robust discussion here. Many of us would be delighted to have the opportunity to critique Will's arguments; unfortunately, his antics here have severely hampered our ability to do that, since he's not going to be published any time soon (embarrassing on so many levels!)

...he is the one who put his foot in it.

That made me laugh.

He shamed the Church...

He shames the church, present tense, with his lack of repentence. His priesthood is null and void as long as he maintains his prideful facade.

... when:
1. He showed up over here to talk to apostates.

And active LDS temple recommend holders.

2. He did his best to behave but then allowed the worms here to tempt him into responding in their language.

We have only the highest quality worms here. The fishing is quite respectable. We bag our limit daily.

3. He attacked them using horrible language and misogynistic terms.

And refused to repent.

4. Standing behind his poor use of language.

But then no one here really expected him to humble himself and apologize. Sometimes our expectations are too low.

William Schryver is a brilliant apologist

Your opinion is noted. Not noteworthy, but noted.

....and will certainly continue to redefine the conversation in the future but right now, he is an embarrassment.

Well, he certainly redefined the conversation here. Few would dispute that.

We as Latter-Day Saints should never try to defend what has been presented on that thread

We as Latter-day Saints have often tried to point out the shameful behavior of some of our members, but to no avail. Good luck with that.

(albeit with malicious intent by a weak minded person).

The malicious intent and weak minded individual resides in southern Utah. Acquit the rest of us. Jack simply pulled the majority of the words together for future reference.

I find what you say here disgusting, Pahoran,

That works.

and you should watch what you say lest you discredit yourself.

Too late.

Mrs. Jack, not all LDS think in terms of mindless tribalism, and most would be horrified by what William has written, and at Pahoran's justifications. I will have none of it!

:-)

Hello,

I denounce Mr. Timothy's use of pornographic imagery, and insulting language. I demand he repent, make amends, and never return to his abhorrent behavior.

V/R
Dr. Cameron

You still have not produced the copyright registration for the photo you had the DMCA takedown notice issued on.

It was published.

Did you register it in the statutory 90 days?

As for your 'gentleman' tag, do 'gentlemen' always get vulgar with responses when asked to produce proof? Your "f%&*you Bi***" sure does not seem gentlemanly to me.

Are you going to produce the proof you registered copyright or do we have to institute formal inquiry into your DMCA claim on whether it was actually illegal? If you filed it while the image is actually public domain you might find some real problems headed your way boy.