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There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:57 pm
by _Buffalo
Christian and pseudo Christian religions give Jesus a lot of lip service, but none of them really seem to pay attention to what Jesus actually said. And there's a good reason for that. A lot of his advice is really terrible:
If you do something wrong with your eye or hand, cut/pluck it off (Matthew 5:29-30, in a sexual context).
Marrying a divorced woman is adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
Don't plan for the future. (Matthew 6:34)
Don't save money. (Matthew 6:19-20)
Don't become wealthy. (Mark 10:21-25)
Sell everything and give it to the poor. (Luke 12:33)
Don't work to obtain food. (John 6:27)
Make people want to persecute you. (Matthew 5:11)
If someone steals from you, don't try to get it back. (Luke 6:30)
If someone hits you, invite them to do it again. (Matthew 5:39)
If you lose a lawsuit, give more than the judgment. (Matthew 5:40)
If someone forces you to walk a mile, walk two miles. (Matthew 5:41)
If anyone asks you for anything, give it to them without question. (Matthew 5:42)
You should "hate" your family, and abandon your spouse and children for God (Luke 14:26, Matt. 19:29-30)
Frankly, this is just awful advice. I can't blame believers for not following it, but I do wonder at the disconnect between worshiping this guy and not bothering yourself about following his words.
And, of course, the reason why a lot of this advice is so bad is that Jesus sincerely believed that the end of the world was coming soon - there was no point in raising families and keeping gainful employment.
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:03 pm
by _just me
Yeah, it really is terrible advice. Not at all what the modern LDS church teaches.
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:21 pm
by _zeezrom
Buff,
Don't forget about the picture of Jesus holding a kitten. I would venture to say there are good reasons to follow Jesus according to that picture. Kittens are very fuzzy and soft and nice people have them.
Zee.
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:22 pm
by _Chap
Buffalo wrote:Christian and pseudo Christian religions give Jesus a lot of lip service, but none of them really seem to pay attention to what Jesus actually said. And there's a good reason for that. A lot of his advice is really terrible:
If you do something wrong with your eye or hand, cut/pluck it off (Matthew 5:29-30, in a sexual context).
Marrying a divorced woman is adultery. (Matthew 5:32)
Don't plan for the future. (Matthew 6:34)
Don't save money. (Matthew 6:19-20)
Don't become wealthy. (Mark 10:21-25)
Sell everything and give it to the poor. (Luke 12:33)
Don't work to obtain food. (John 6:27)
Make people want to persecute you. (Matthew 5:11)
If someone steals from you, don't try to get it back. (Luke 6:30)
If someone hits you, invite them to do it again. (Matthew 5:39)
If you lose a lawsuit, give more than the judgment. (Matthew 5:40)
If someone forces you to walk a mile, walk two miles. (Matthew 5:41)
If anyone asks you for anything, give it to them without question. (Matthew 5:42)
You should "hate" your family, and abandon your spouse and children for God (Luke 14:26, Matt. 19:29-30)
Frankly, this is just awful advice. I can't blame believers for not following it, but I do wonder at the disconnect between worshiping this guy and not bothering yourself about following his words.
And, of course, the reason why a lot of this advice is so bad is that Jesus sincerely believed that the end of the world was coming soon - there was no point in raising families and keeping gainful employment.
You have to read the context.
He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.
I don't know that he taught that.
All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:29 pm
by _Buffalo
Chap wrote:
You have to read the context.
He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.
I don't know that he taught that.
All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.
Masterful.
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:33 pm
by _Hoops
You have to read the context.
He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.
I don't know that he taught that.
All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.
Yeah, that was pretty fun. but on to the op -
maybe buffalo can tell us what these verses mean, so that we know he knows what he's talking about. Here's a hint: no he can't. Plucking verses from their home and using them as ammunition is simply juvenile.
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:35 pm
by _Chap
Hoops wrote:
You have to read the context.
He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.
I don't know that he taught that.
All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.
... Plucking verses from their home and using them as ammunition is simply juvenile.
Like I said?
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:36 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Hello,
His scribe wrote most of this stuff. We don't know that he actually said that.
V/R
DC
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:43 pm
by _Buffalo
Hoops wrote:
You have to read the context.
He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.
I don't know that he taught that.
All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.
Yeah, that was pretty fun. but on to the op -
maybe buffalo can tell us what these verses mean, so that we know he knows what he's talking about. Here's a hint: no he can't. Plucking verses from their home and using them as ammunition is simply juvenile.
It's hilarious that your real response is exactly the same as Chap's parody. :D
Re: There's a good reason why no one follows Jesus
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:45 pm
by _Ceeboo
Chap wrote:
You have to read the context.
He was speaking as a savior, so it's not doctrine.
I don't know that he taught that.
All this has already been refuted multiple times. Use Google.
Hey Chap,
I don't care who you are, THAT was funny!
Brilliant!
Top 5 responses of all time.
Bravo!
Peace,
Ceeboo