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Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:31 am
by _daheshism
Mormons:

Do you believe that Adam and Eve were like how Church art presents them...as Anglo-Saxon looking white people, the first two humans on Earth?

Not Russian looking. Not French looking. No Italian looking white people. Not Jewish looking white people. But, Anglo-Saxon looking white people?

The Story of Adam and Eve is a parable based upon the true and historical story of Pharoah Aye and Queen Khiyah of Egypt (c. 1800 b.c.). Aye married his grand-daughter Khiyah in order to keep the bloodline "pure". Khiyah means "fiesty animal" in Egyptian. It is close to the Hebrew name for Eve which is "Khivah" (which means "life" or "lively"). "Adam" means "to appear red" and indeed Aye appears "red skinned" in depictions.

Khiyah was "tempted by the serpent" meaning she was "tempted" by the Serpent/Conbra Crown, by which the pharoahs ruled; a symbol of the "wisdom of the gods". Khiyah then "templed" Aye with "forbidden fruit"--that which "hangs" and is "delicious to the taste".

The "Garden of Eden" was actually Meru-Aten ("Garden of Aten"); a religious/garden complex built near what is now El-Amarna. Had a "tree of life" in the center.

The "rib" story is not literal. "Rib" in Hebrew is "tsela" and can be "rid" or "beam" or "penis"; like the English word "bone" or "wood". Eve was "taken" from the "rib" of Adam....meaning from his penis, i.e. she was his descendant.

The author of Genesis wrote the Adam and Eve parable based upon the story of Aye and Khiyah.

Aye was a priest of Aten, which became in Hebrew ADON (the name used for Jehovah by Jews). ADON-ai means "my Adon" or ADON-oi means "our Adon".

Adam (Aye) was the first ADOM (i.e. one who appears red) meaning the first worshipper of Aten. He taught Aten-worship to Anken-aten, his son-in-law. Aye was the father of Nefertiti, wife of Anken-aten and mother of Khiyah.

Adam and Eve were "thrust out" of the Garden because they offended Aten (i.e. they were tossed out of the kingship and queenship because they broke the law of Aten). They were "cast out" the Garden (Meru-Aten).

*There are no talking snakes. The "snake" was the Cobra-crown, symbol of the Wisdom of the Gods by which the pharoahs ruled. Khiyah was "tempted" by the serpent, meaning she wanted the cobra-crown, but to get it she had to marry her grandfather, so she "tempted" him with "forbidden fruit" (i.e. the ancient Egyptians referred to genitals as "fruit" because they "hung" like fruit and contained "seed" in them).

*You can't get women from ribs! By "rib" is meant the penis of Aye, and Khiyah came from his "loins" (rib).


This is the true meaning of the story of Adam and Eve. No talking snakes. No women from literal ribs. No sinning by eating apples or figs. No Santa Claus riding the skies with flying raindeer.

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:38 am
by _Joseph Antley
daheshism wrote:Mormons:

Do you believe that Adam and Eve were like how Church art presents them...as Anglo-Saxon looking white people, the first two humans on Earth?

Not Russian looking. Not French looking. No Italian looking white people. Not Jewish looking white people. But, Anglo-Saxon looking white people?


Beats me. I don't think it's just the LDS Church that portrays them that way, I would assume that most of white Christianity does. Artists tend to portray things after their own race. Hence our Jesus is white and in Ethiopia he's black.

The Story of Adam and Eve is a parable based upon the true and historical story of Pharoah Aye and Queen Khiyah of Egypt (c. 1800 b.c.). Aye married his grand-daughter Khiyah in order to keep the bloodline "pure". Khiyah means "fiesty animal" in Egyptian. It is close to the Hebrew name for Eve which is "Khivah" (which means "life" or "lively"). "Adam" means "to appear red" and indeed Aye appears "red skinned" in depictions.

Khiyah was "tempted by the serpent" meaning she was "tempted" by the Serpent/Conbra Crown, by which the pharoahs ruled; a symbol of the "wisdom of the gods". Khiyah then "templed" Aye with "forbidden fruit"--that which "hangs" and is "delicious to the taste".

The "Garden of Eden" was actually Meru-Aten ("Garden of Aten"); a religious/garden complex built near what is now El-Amarna. Had a "tree of life" in the center.

The "rib" story is not literal. "Rib" in Hebrew is "tsela" and can be "rid" or "beam" or "penis"; like the English word "bone" or "wood". Eve was "taken" from the "rib" of Adam....meaning from his penis, i.e. she was his descendant.

The author of Genesis wrote the Adam and Eve parable based upon the story of Aye and Khiyah.

Aye was a priest of Aten, which became in Hebrew ADON (the name used for Jehovah by Jews). ADON-ai means "my Adon" or ADON-oi means "our Adon".

Adam (Aye) was the first ADOM (i.e. one who appears red) meaning the first worshipper of Aten. He taught Aten-worship to Anken-aten, his son-in-law. Aye was the father of Nefertiti, wife of Anken-aten and mother of Khiyah.

Adam and Eve were "thrust out" of the Garden because they offended Aten (i.e. they were tossed out of the kingship and queenship because they broke the law of Aten). They were "cast out" the Garden (Meru-Aten).

*There are no talking snakes. The "snake" was the Cobra-crown, symbol of the Wisdom of the Gods by which the pharoahs ruled. Khiyah was "tempted" by the serpent, meaning she wanted the cobra-crown, but to get it she had to marry her grandfather, so she "tempted" him with "forbidden fruit" (i.e. the ancient Egyptians referred to genitals as "fruit" because they "hung" like fruit and contained "seed" in them).

*You can't get women from ribs! By "rib" is meant the penis of Aye, and Khiyah came from his "loins" (rib).

This is the true meaning of the story of Adam and Eve. No talking snakes. No women from literal ribs. No sinning by eating apples or figs. No Santa Claus riding the skies with flying raindeer.


Interesting theory, but not a lot of solid historical or textual evidence to back it up. Did you come up with this yourself or did you borrow it from somewhere?

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:39 am
by _bcspace
Do you believe that Adam and Eve were like how Church art presents them...as Anglo-Saxon looking white people, the first two humans on Earth?


Were there white people in 4000 B.C.? I actually don't mind a fall date preceeding the first civilization (Sumer), so maybe we could ask for 8000 B.C.

If there were, then Adam and Eve could certainly have been white. Homo sapiens have been around for about a million years If I recall correctly, so I think God could have picked a couple of any (or mixed) color.

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:45 pm
by _Fiannan
Not Russian looking. Not French looking. No Italian looking white people. Not Jewish looking white people. But, Anglo-Saxon looking white people?


Russian eve?

http://russianwomentruth.com/wp-content ... -masha.jpg

French Eve?

http://0.tqn.com/d/hairremoval/1/0/c/4/ ... armpit.jpg


Jewish Eve?

http://theworldsbestever.com/blog/wp-co ... -woman.jpg


Anglo Saxon Eve?


http://www.everywritersresource.com/wri ... _Eliot.jpg

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:54 am
by _Hoops

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:22 am
by _moksha
daheshism wrote:Mormons:

Do you believe that Adam and Eve were like how Church art presents them...as Anglo-Saxon looking white people, the first two humans on Earth?



There is very little evidence of this considering French is the only remaining protoadamic language. You can see it in their baguettes.

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:18 am
by _Joseph
Isn't the temple movie real? You know, God magicked a video cam in the Garden of Edin and we have the movie?

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:10 am
by _Dr. Shades
I've got to admit, it makes sense, considering where religious narratives typically find their genesis (no pun intended).

You wrote:

Adam and Eve were "thrust out" of the Garden because they offended Aten (i.e. they were tossed out of the kingship and queenship because they broke the law of Aten).

What was the "Law of Aten," and in what way did they break it?

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:20 pm
by _Yahoo Bot
daheshism wrote:Adam (Aye) was the first ADOM (i.e. one who appears red) meaning the first worshipper of Aten. He taught Aten-worship to Anken-aten, his son-in-law. Aye was the father of Nefertiti, wife of Anken-aten and mother of Khiyah.


Adam is the Hebrew name for "man." On Semitic literature has claim on that name.

Do you think that Adam was a real person? If he wasn't, then who cares what race it was?

Re: Adam and Eve.....Anglo-Saxon white people? Or.....

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:32 pm
by _daheshism
Wrong (as usual). Ish means "man" and Isha means woman in Hebrew. Awdawm means "Aw" plus "dawm". "aw" (to show, appear) and "dawm" (blood, reddish).


Yahoo Bot wrote:
daheshism wrote:Adam (Aye) was the first ADOM (i.e. one who appears red) meaning the first worshipper of Aten. He taught Aten-worship to Anken-aten, his son-in-law. Aye was the father of Nefertiti, wife of Anken-aten and mother of Khiyah.


Adam is the Hebrew name for "man." On Semitic literature has claim on that name.

Do you think that Adam was a real person? If he wasn't, then who cares what race it was?