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why me wrote:

liz3564 wrote:
Why Me, that was a completely inappropriate remark.

If we weren't trying to clean up our personal attacks, I would be calling you an asshole right now. However, since we are trying to change our culture, I'll refrain. ;-)

I don't think that it was an inappropriate remark at all. It was a practical comment. Boys and masturbation can be a messy affair. And that was my point with the missionary example. Not fun to see spots on the floor for all concerned.

No it was a totally inappropriate remark and one of your ugliest ones. I do have to say though I am constantly amazed at your personal knowledge of all those things that are considered immoral sexual activities by both of your claimed religious affiliations. That and your remarkable familiarity with all aspects of pornography, with your detailed descriptions of what goes on, one might think that well shall we say, you didn't always use light cotton. Why was it again that you don't participate fully in either church?

cafe crema wrote:
No it was a totally inappropriate remark and one of your ugliest ones. I do have to say though I am constantly amazed at your personal knowledge of all those things that are considered immoral sexual activities by both of your claimed religious affiliations. That and your remarkable familiarity with all aspects of pornography, with your detailed descriptions of what goes on, one might think that well shall we say, you didn't always use light cotton. Why was it again that you don't participate fully in either church?

True, I am a very knowledgeable person about many things. So you think that masturbation is immoral? You can always challenge the exmos here about masturbation and explain why it is immoral. But you can not do that because you are here to be negative about the Mormon church.

why me wrote:

liz3564 wrote: You really don't have to get into the type of gory detail you did. That was for pure shock value, and you know it.

How to explain it without some detail? Not possible. This thread is entitled: Speaking of masturbation. On all the masturbation threads started by our exmo posters, I have never read of any parent discussing the mess that the son may create. I just did a public service by making exmo parents aware of a possible problem.

BS! You posted what you posted to get a reaction from Just Me.

Well, consider the reaction GOTTEN...and not only from Just Me, but from me, as well.

Let me tell you something, Why Me. As a member of the Church, I do NOT consider your supposed "defense" of MY faith to be welcome. The type of "defense" you are giving, like the kind you just gave here, is an embarrassment. You are hardly a representative of MY faith.

why me wrote:

cafe crema wrote:
No it was a totally inappropriate remark and one of your ugliest ones. I do have to say though I am constantly amazed at your personal knowledge of all those things that are considered immoral sexual activities by both of your claimed religious affiliations. That and your remarkable familiarity with all aspects of pornography, with your detailed descriptions of what goes on, one might think that well shall we say, you didn't always use light cotton. Why was it again that you don't participate fully in either church?

True, I am a very knowledgeable person about many things. So you think that masturbation is immoral? You can always challenge the exmos here about masturbation and explain why it is immoral. But you can not do that because you are here to be negative about the Mormon church.

I never said anything about the Mormon church but I did say that both the churches you claim to attend call much of what you so intimately (so intimately that one has to wonder is it the voice of personal experience talking) know immoral, yeah even depraved. Why is it again you don't participate fully?

Why Me was offended, and never got over it.

True story.

liz3564 wrote:
Let me tell you something, Why Me. As a member of the Church, I do NOT consider your supposed "defense" of MY faith to be welcome. The type of "defense" you are giving, like the kind you just gave here, is an embarrassment. You are hardly a representative of MY faith.

I wasn't representing the faith when I made the comment nor was I defending the church when I gave it.

I think that over on MDD when masturbation was discussed most members had a very liberal view of it. And so do I. In fact, I don't see any problem with masturbation as long as it doesn't become an obsession. But I also know that one must talk about the mess afterwards if one has girls too. Just practical advice to parents who advise their sons to masturbate if they wish to do so.

By the way Líz, who here is representing their lds faith well in your opinion? You? Harmony? Simon? Nehor? etc? And who here is representing the exmos well? Any names? Maybe not.

Thus, maybe the problem of the board.

gramps wrote:Why Me was offended, and never got over it.

True story.

Nope, but when my friend told me the story of his companion it did make an impact. I felt sorry for the missionary who was discovered that way. Of course, he never knew it. But it wasn't also pleasant for my friend to find on the bathroom floor.

Why me is giving me that flu-ish feeling again.

why me wrote:

Rambo wrote:I do actually think porn use would go down amoung Mormon men if they didn't keep focusing on it and calling it a sin.

Maybe but maybe not. Since porn is addicting and since some of those men may be addicted, it would be a long drawn out process. For many men, it is not so easy to abandon porn because it is not a sin anymore. In fact, as more Mormons do view it because it is not a sin, more would become addicted.

Porn is mostly addictive to people who view it as sinful. Of course, the church tends to classify any viewing of pornography as an "addiction."

liz3564 wrote:

Why Me wrote:However, moms and dads hardly ever consider the mess when they have a talk with their son about masturbation. Not so pretty to find sperm drops on the bathroom floor. And if the big sister finds them, well, the embarrassment of the son will be tremendous as she makes a big deal of it.

Why not just have the son clean his own bathroom? Then it's a non-issue!

by the way, I find your vivid description of a teen-aged son dropping sperm on a bathroom floor, and that sperm being discovered by an older sister, very creepy.

Why Me excels at making creepy comments.