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The church leaders always cave into pressure once society progresses to the point that they are unable to look sane without changing their policies, and I see no reason to think the same thing will not happen in this case. When will the leaders receive a "revelation"? 2020? 2030?

2076. That was two years before the Catholics finally caved in on June 21, 2078.

in the same week that they announce temple sealings for gays...

About fifty years after mainstream society no longer finds it acceptable for religions to treat women as second class members.

Many people have difficulty with the LDS Ban on Blacks but have no problem with women being denied the very same thing!

The, "Ban," still exists. ;-)

~td~

truth dancer wrote:About fifty years after mainstream society no longer finds it acceptable for religions to treat women as second class members.

Many people have difficulty with the LDS Ban on Blacks but have no problem with women being denied the very same thing!

The, "Ban," still exists. ;-)

~td~

Don't forget to veil your face woman when we're praying properly...

Hi Jon,

jon wrote:

truth dancer wrote:About fifty years after mainstream society no longer finds it acceptable for religions to treat women as second class members.

Many people have difficulty with the LDS Ban on Blacks but have no problem with women being denied the very same thing!

The, "Ban," still exists. ;-)

~td~

Don't forget to veil your face woman when we're praying properly...

Ahhh, don't even get me started! LOL!

~td~

Hi TD,

On the plus side, you can pray in Sacrament Meeting even though you can't be the final speaker...

malaise wrote:The church leaders always cave into pressure once society progresses to the point that they are unable to look sane without changing their policies, and I see no reason to think the same thing will not happen in this case. When will the leaders receive a "revelation"? 2020? 2030?

I predict they'll cave on homosexuality first, and then finally women.

LOL. We are at an impasse. Say women have the priesthood. What the hell are we going to let them actually do? Serve as bishop? Would the church allow women to interview men alone? Some men would die of shame before stooping so low in their ego. The organization would die before allowing it!

Maybe the women could have some token responsibilities like priesthood leadership in the primary?

zeezrom wrote:Say women have the priesthood. What the hell are we going to let them actually do?

1. Serve in Sunday school presidencies
2. Baptize their children and incoming converts
3. Serve as witnesses to baptisms
4. Confirm their children and incoming converts
5. Give their children priesthood blessings
6. Give priesthood blessings to those they visit teach
7. Serve in stake presidencies
8. Serve as Seventies
9. Serve as apostles and prophets
10. Give more than 2 talks in the general sessions of conference
11. Speak in priesthood sessions
12. Give opening and closing prayers at Conference
13. Bless the Sacrament
14. Administer the Sacrament
15. Serve as temple presidents
16. Serve as zone leaders, district leaders, and assistants to mission presidents
17. Serve as mission presidents
18. Get cited regularly in official church teaching materials
19. Serve as ward clerks and finance clerks
20. Serve as executive secretaries
21. Perform sealings in the temple
22. Baptize proxies for the dead in the temple

And then there's . . .

zeezrom wrote:Serve as bishop? Would the church allow women to interview men alone?

It lets men interview women alone, including asking them questions about their sex lives and whether they've ever had an abortion. It even does this in cultures where this is considered even more inappropriate and invasive than it is here in the states, like Japan. I don't see why the opposite would be any worse.

And serving in bishoprics would mean presiding and conducting at Sacrament meeting as well.