Mormons have nothing to fear in the Afterlife "if"...
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:50 pm
...they simply keep The Golden Rule.
The Noble Spiritual Faith (Daheshism) teaches that God does not care what religion or church we belong to. He cares only how we "treat" other sentient beings. A "sentient" being is any being who can feel pleasure or pain. This includes all beings on Earth except for plants and insects and fish and crustacians (whales and dolphins manitees are NOT "fish). We are judged solely by our "works" (how we treat others) and nothing else.
So, being a member of the Mormon Church (or not) does not determine our Afterlife fate. Being a Christian or not or a Muslim or not or a Catholic who accepts the Pope in Rome or not, believing in the Trinity or Predestination or any other theological point or dogma or argument is totally and completely __IR__relevant to our Afterlife fate. All that determines our Afterlife is "how we treat other sentient beings". Buddhism and the Jain religion also teach this. So does the religion of the Druze, and the religion of Ayya Vaikundar. So does Vaishnava Hinduism (worshippers of Vishnu).
So, if Daheshism is true, then being a Mormon does not "harm" us, and will not send us to Hell. What sends us to Hell is our own actions toward other sentient beings. The more negative things we do to others (and ourselves), the more Negative Karma we attract to our souls. This Negative Karma is like dirt on our clothing. We cannot get into the Kingdom of Heaven with "dirt" (negative karma). But negative karma can be "burned away" (washed away) via four things:
1. good thoughts 2. good words 3. good deeds 4. suffering
These are the Four Agents of Karma, the Four Beasts with Six Wings (six dimensions) who are near the Throne of the Lamb.
Think of a person blind, deaf, dumb, retarded, with horrible diseases, and we think "Oh, hor terrible for this person." And it is, but, the more we SUFFER in this life, the more Negative Karm was burn away from our soul. This should be a comfort to those who suffer a lot. For those who do not suffer much, they must fill their lives with good thoughts, good words, and good deeds.
Mormons think they are doing "good things" if they attend meetings, and pay tithing. But, these do not benefit others. Attending meetings is karmicly neutral (not good, not bad). Paying tithing to the Church goes to building buildings and making BYU cheaper than it could be, and also publishing copies of The Book of Mormon (which few people read), Church media, and to run the Church. Tithing money is NOT used to benefit the poor or needy. Therefore, it is also karmicly neutral. Fast Offerings is good karma, because it benefits others. Clothing the naked, feeding the poor, taking care of widows and orphans, these are the things that "burn away" our own Negative Karma. Tithe paying does not burn away Bad Karma. Fast Offerings DO burn away bad karma.
I know or know of Mormon men who are active in the Church, who have sex before marriage (in secret), or have sex with their own daughters (in secret), and believe as long as they pay tithing and are active in Church and sustain Church leaders, they will be exalted among the Gods in yonder heavens. What they don't realize is that Church activity does not benefit anyone unless it helps one to perform good deeds towards others. Sitting in Church listening to a BORING talk (and 95% of Church talks are boring...let's face it) does not burn away bad Karma. Granted, it is better than doing harm, but it does no good. IT would be better for you to visit the widow and bring her food, or to help the poor, or to visit the sick on that day than to sit there listening to a fool ramble on about nothing.
Going on a Proselyting Mission burns away little Bad Karma. However, going on a Welfare Mission burns away a great amount of Bad Karma. At best, a Proselyting Mission helps in that it can increase your spirituality, which always leads to good deeds but is not a "good deed" in itself.
If you are burned with fire, and suffer greatly, do not say "God, why have you done this to me? I am a good person. I have been a good person all of my life. Why have you allowed me to be burned and to suffer so?" Say: "I have done this to myself, for in this life or a previous life I burned someone, and now I am being burned for it, and this suffering of mine will burn away much of my Bad Karma, so that in my next life I will get a very good birth or I may even enter into the Kingdom of Heaven!"
If you get cancer, do not say: "Lord, I am a good person. Why did you give me cancer? I have done good in my life, so why are you cutting my life short and causing me to suffer so?" Say: "Lord, I brought this upon myself, for in a previous life I cut a life short, and now my life will be cut short, but this suffering of mine will burn away much of my Bad Karma, so that in my next life I will be born with a beautiful and healthy body and mind, or I may be born above into the Kingdom of Heaven!"
The Evangelicals believe that if you recite the Sinner's Prayer, and believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord, his blood upon the Cross will "clean" you of all previous sins, and you will at death go to an eternal Heavenly Choir that is composed of millions or billions of genderless angels, singing hymns to God and Jesus for all eternity, sometimes looking down between your feet at the Damned being burned, but this will bring "joy to the heart" because you know you're not burning in Hell. And good works mean nothing. A man who rapes and murders children for 30 years, if he says the Sinner's Prayer and believes in his heart that Jesus is Lord, and then is killed, he will go to the Heavenly Choir for all eternity, but Mother Teresa, the author of much good works, will burn in Hell-fire forever because she prayed to Mary, and was not truly a "born again" Christian.
Doctor Dahesh taught this was NONsense! Reciting a prayer cannot save us from Hell (the planets were the Suns burns our skin and we die of old age). Belonging to a Church or religion cannot save us. Attending meetings, wearing suits and ties, getting "priesthoods", going through Masonic like rituals, cannot save us nor "exalt" us. These are karmicly neutral. Neither do these actions send us to Hell. What sends us to Heaven or Hell is our own "actions" towards others.
The Realm of Hell are the planets in the Galactic Arms; where the Suns "burn" and age our skin. We feel pain, and we get old, and we die. Demons (socio-paths) "torment" us. We eat "bitter fruit". This is the meaning of "burning in Hell". And we shall return to "Hell" if we do not burn away all of our Bad Karma. The Mormon Church is FILLED with "demons" (socio-paths): liars, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, back-stabbers, smooth-faced ego-centric false accusers. They "torment" the good. That is actually their "karmic job".
The Kingdom of Heaven is the Galactic Core, where the Suns are very numerous and close together. There is no "night" there. All is day. Radiation is too intense there for any physical life to exist. But life exists there in Ethereal bodies. Ethereal humans and animals and plants. Everything that exists on this planet, and billions of other planets, but in ethereal form. Ethereal bodies do not "die" or "age" because they are not affected by the "rays" (fire) of the Suns. Our physical bodies "burn" under the UV rays of the Sun, but ethereal bodies do not "burn". When we age we are literally "burning". That is why the faces of the old look "melted". We are in "Hell" now! "Not so bad!" you say? Ok, then return. If you do evil towards others you'll return blind, or deformed, or you may go to a lower Hell-world that is quite awful compared to this planet. We are judged by our "works".
This planet too has an ethereal plane, but we can't see it. We must soul-travel, as Paul did, to see the ethereal plane, which is the Spirit-World. We must have a very high spiritual vibration in order to leave our physical bodies without dying. Only a "few" can see it sometimes. I once visited it, and it is a LOT like our plane, but the architecture is much more FANTASTIC (i.e. money is no object), and looking at the Sun does not hurt your eyes, and the sky is purple not blue. There are buildings, and schools, and houses just like here. People wear the same fashions that we popular in their own generation; so you see many different fashions. I visited what looked like a very small high school, and saw teen-agers (about a dozen). The school I visited had only a dozen students...young people who had died as teen-agers. They are literally in little high schools in the Spirit-World.
When you die and find yourself in the Spirit-World, no angel is going to appear to you and say: "Mormonism is true" or "Mormonism is false". You loved ones greet you. Your Mormon aunt is going to say: "See, Mormonism is true, this proves it!" Your Evangelical cousin will say: "Ah, this proves nothing! Mormonism is false! We are all in heaven!". Your aunt will say, "But we are Mormons, and you said Mormons cannot get to Heaven!" And your Evangelical cousin will say, "Well, we are all in Heaven because we all must be judged, and indeed Mormons are going to Hell after the Judgment, and I'm sure that will be coming soon! Jesus will appear soon to us and I'm going to stay here for eternity, but Mormons are going to Hell!" There are churches there just as there are here, and just as many. "God" will not appear to you just as He does not appear to you in this plane. The Agnostics will say, "Wow, there is an Afterlife after all!" The Atheists will say: "No! No! I'm in a coma in some hospital somewhere, and all of you are just part of my dream. None of you exist. Only I exist here because this is merely my dream. I hope I wake up soon!"
Every physical city, I can assure you, has it's ethereal equivolent. They just look different, but not very different. If you what to know what the Spirit-World is like, then look to the writings of the Brazilian Spiritists. They have many books in English.
To believe that the American Indians are really the descendants of Lehi the Jew and Ishmael the Arab, is not "good" or "bad". It is simply "ignorant" of the facts (in fact they have no Jewish or Arab DNA in their genetic histories). To believe in the Book of Mormon does not "damn" us to Hell, and neither does it "save" us from Hell. It is karmicly neutral; like a child believing in Santa Claus, or a person believing the Earth is flat. No good karma. No bad karma. But, if by reading the Book of Mormon, it leads you to "good works" then it is a good thing, since we are judged solely by our "works". If by reciting "The Sinner's Prayer" is "leads one to good works" then it indeed "can" SAVE us! The prayer does not save us, but the "good works" do, as Paul wrote:
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9-10)
The Ignorant (i.e. Evangelicals) believe this Verse means that one must only recite a Sinner's Prayer, and believe that Jesus is Lord (along with the Trinity, salvation by Grace alone, and many other doctrines and dogmas), the one is eternall "saved" (i.e. eternal genderless heavenly choir). But, Paul said that a man must "believe unto righteousness" to be saved. "Righteousness" means literally "right actions". Not mere "belief" but "actions". Daheshism could not agree more. "IF" the Sinner's Prayer and sincere belief leads to "right actions" then it leads to salvation. But only if "right actions" follow. We are saved by our "works" (actions); not by any "Sinner's Prayer" or sincere belief in our heads.
The Law of Moses does not "save" us from Hell; because the Law does not benefit other sentient beings. If I do not "kill" I am not doing bad karm, but neither am I doing good karma. If I rest on the Sabbath, what other sentient being am I benefiting? If I do not eat swine or shell-fish, this is a benefit to my health, but how is it benefiting others (except perhaps for the swine and shellfish)? The "works" of the Law cannot save me, but "righteousness" can, and it must be MY OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS as Jesus said:
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:20)
Jesus said: >>If you want to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, YOU must have more right actions (righteousness) than those of the scholars and Pharisees."<<
Jesus did NOT say: >>Your right actions are as filthy rags, and cannot save you. Say the Sinner's prayer and believe in your heart, and I will transfer MY right actions to you, but only if you also believe in the Trinity, salvation by grace alone, and that only the 66 books of the Protestant Bible is the Word of God.<<
Evangelicals believe that OUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS ____cannot____ save us (even though Jesus said the opposite), and our own righteousnes are as "filthy rags". They believe Jesus "transfers" His righteous to the true believer (i.e. the Evangelical Christian who believes in the Trinity, salvation by grace alone, and many other doctrines). Daheshism says: "This is IGNORANCE!" Doctor Dahesh should know, He was Jesus in a previous incarnation. He proved He was from God by His thousands of supernatural miracles. He raised the dead, healed the sick, turned water into wine, did things no magician could do, on a daily basis for seventy years.
If Jesus wanted to "transfer" His righteousness to us, He would have said: "Say the Sinner's Prayer, and believe that God raised me from the dead, and I will transfer my righteousness to YOU!"
He never said that. He said: "Unless YOUR righteousness (right actions) are greater than those of the Pharisees and Sadducees, you cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven".
Simple, direct, to the point...true! This agrees with Daheshism. It is totally opposed to Evangelicalism.
To believe in the Trinity, or Pre-Destination, or the Five Points of Calvinism, or any of the thousands of various Christian dogmas, is neither "good" nor "bad" but karmicly neutral. Does believing in the Trinity lead us to good works (treating other beings better or with good deeds)? The Catholic Church teaches you must go good deeds but 100,000 good deeds are meaningless unless you also accept the Pope of Rome and hundreds of other Cathoilic doctrines. The Evangelical churches teaches that the Holy Spirit will lead you and do good via your already being "saved" via the Sinner's Prayer. When I was a Mormon missionary in California, Evangelicals often spit upon us, or slammed the doors in our faces, or lied to us, or punched us, or threw boiling water upon us, or threatened to beat or kill us or run us off the road. Only a "few" Evangelicals treated us with kindness, and agreed to disagree with us agreeably. Most were rude, disrespectful, and some were threatening or violent. These things are BAD KARMA. And, these negative actions did not inspire us to leave Mormonism and accept Evangelicalism either. It had the opposite effect.
So, in conclusion, the Noble Spiritual Faith teaches that IT DOES NOT MATTER ONE FARTHING if Joseph Smith was a true or false prophet, or if the Book of Mormon is true or not. What matters is ____how we treat other sentient beings___ and absolutely "nothing" else! THAT IS ALL!
So, if being a Mormon "Helps" you "help" others, be a good Mormon! I've discovered that I don't need to sit through three hours of UTTER UBER-BOREDOM every Sunday in order to do good. I don't need to pay tithing (that goes for buildings and Church businesses...nothing to help the poor or widows or hungry). I sometimes contribute Fast Offerings, even though I am not a Mormon and do not go to Church; because I know these offerings will benefit the poor.
I know a good Mormon named Bob Durocher. He goes to Church, but he volunteers 8 hours a week at a soup kitchen for the poor and homeless, that is run by Jews! Most Mormons I knew would think Bob is foolish, since such volunteering does not personally "benefit" him (i.e. he gets no money for it, the Brethren are not asking him to do this). But, Bob will get benefits in that he is burning away Bad Karma by doing things that will positively effect others. He is doing "good deeds".
Most Mormons I knew believed that we are "judged" according to our earthly accomplishments:
*How many years one was active in the Church
*How many meetings one attended.
*How many times one went through the Temple
*How much money one gave to the Church
*How many Church callings one kept
*How they went on a mission
*How far up the Church hierarchy one got
*How much education one had
*How much one accomplished in business or profession
Most Mormen men "I" knew believed they were going to be "judged" based upon these factors. The fact that they had sex before marriage was irrevelavent as long as their bishops didn't know about it because "everybody lies about sex". These men are UTTERLY IGNORANT, and will discover they will not become Gods with multiple wives in the Celestial Kingdom! They will be judged SOLELY on "How" they treated others and nothing else.
Most Mormon women I knew believed they were judged according to...
*How many years they were active in Church
*How many times they went through the Temple.
*How many Church meetings they went to.
*How they were obedient to church leaders
*How they were obedient to their husbands
*How many Church callings they kept
*How they kept their homes clean
*How they raised their children to be good Mormons
They believe they will keep their husbands for eternity and reign on thrones in glorious palaces on worlds they help create, and their children will be with them, as children (i.e. their children will apparently not getting their own planets and wives but be will remain as children on the planets of their parents). They see glorious palaces, and servants, and thrones, and beautiful robes, and their children in happy settings, and their husbands by their sides.
But their husbands do "see" that. Their husbands see themselves having sex with their multitudes of beautiful wives, and even "stepping down" to have sex with their most beautiful spirit-daughers, as God the Father had sex with Mary, to produce saviors for their fallen worlds.
Mormon men see themselves as creating planets and having sex with beautiful young women all the time...including their most beautiful spirit-daughters.
Mormon women see themselves on thrones holding hands with their husbands being served by servants with their children playing at their feet, and bearing more spirit-children for eternity.
But....
You will not get to the Kingdom of Heaven via attending meetings, or belonging to True Churches, or obeying ignorant men who are not prophets, or believing that American Indians are really Jews, or attending secret Masonic-like rituals, or paying Tithing that benefits nobody but a few Church leaders and their families.
We shall ALL be judged solely according to how we kept ONE LAW: "Do unto others as ye would have them do unto you!" Attending meetings, keeping homes spotless, forcing kids to attend boring meetings that does not inspire them to do good deeds, keeping Church callings, paying tithing which does not benefit anyone but a few Church leaders who make MASSIVE amounts of money from being on Boards of Church owned business...has NO BENEFIT TO YOUR SOUL! We shall ALL be judged by one thing: How we kept The Golden Rule.
And...finally...
My 15 years as a Mormon, and 32 years of observing Mormons, convinces me that "most" Mormons don't undertand the Golden Rule: "Do unto others (all others...not just some) as you would like them to do unto you." Most Mormons I knew made all sort of "exceptions" to Golden Rule. They "watered it down" so much, and made so many "exceptions", that it became meaningless. But...there are no exceptions to the Golden Rule! None whatsoever. Most Mormons I knew have yet to learn that lesson: which is Lesson One, Day One, of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.
http://prophetoflebanon.webs.com
The Noble Spiritual Faith (Daheshism) teaches that God does not care what religion or church we belong to. He cares only how we "treat" other sentient beings. A "sentient" being is any being who can feel pleasure or pain. This includes all beings on Earth except for plants and insects and fish and crustacians (whales and dolphins manitees are NOT "fish). We are judged solely by our "works" (how we treat others) and nothing else.
So, being a member of the Mormon Church (or not) does not determine our Afterlife fate. Being a Christian or not or a Muslim or not or a Catholic who accepts the Pope in Rome or not, believing in the Trinity or Predestination or any other theological point or dogma or argument is totally and completely __IR__relevant to our Afterlife fate. All that determines our Afterlife is "how we treat other sentient beings". Buddhism and the Jain religion also teach this. So does the religion of the Druze, and the religion of Ayya Vaikundar. So does Vaishnava Hinduism (worshippers of Vishnu).
So, if Daheshism is true, then being a Mormon does not "harm" us, and will not send us to Hell. What sends us to Hell is our own actions toward other sentient beings. The more negative things we do to others (and ourselves), the more Negative Karma we attract to our souls. This Negative Karma is like dirt on our clothing. We cannot get into the Kingdom of Heaven with "dirt" (negative karma). But negative karma can be "burned away" (washed away) via four things:
1. good thoughts 2. good words 3. good deeds 4. suffering
These are the Four Agents of Karma, the Four Beasts with Six Wings (six dimensions) who are near the Throne of the Lamb.
Think of a person blind, deaf, dumb, retarded, with horrible diseases, and we think "Oh, hor terrible for this person." And it is, but, the more we SUFFER in this life, the more Negative Karm was burn away from our soul. This should be a comfort to those who suffer a lot. For those who do not suffer much, they must fill their lives with good thoughts, good words, and good deeds.
Mormons think they are doing "good things" if they attend meetings, and pay tithing. But, these do not benefit others. Attending meetings is karmicly neutral (not good, not bad). Paying tithing to the Church goes to building buildings and making BYU cheaper than it could be, and also publishing copies of The Book of Mormon (which few people read), Church media, and to run the Church. Tithing money is NOT used to benefit the poor or needy. Therefore, it is also karmicly neutral. Fast Offerings is good karma, because it benefits others. Clothing the naked, feeding the poor, taking care of widows and orphans, these are the things that "burn away" our own Negative Karma. Tithe paying does not burn away Bad Karma. Fast Offerings DO burn away bad karma.
I know or know of Mormon men who are active in the Church, who have sex before marriage (in secret), or have sex with their own daughters (in secret), and believe as long as they pay tithing and are active in Church and sustain Church leaders, they will be exalted among the Gods in yonder heavens. What they don't realize is that Church activity does not benefit anyone unless it helps one to perform good deeds towards others. Sitting in Church listening to a BORING talk (and 95% of Church talks are boring...let's face it) does not burn away bad Karma. Granted, it is better than doing harm, but it does no good. IT would be better for you to visit the widow and bring her food, or to help the poor, or to visit the sick on that day than to sit there listening to a fool ramble on about nothing.
Going on a Proselyting Mission burns away little Bad Karma. However, going on a Welfare Mission burns away a great amount of Bad Karma. At best, a Proselyting Mission helps in that it can increase your spirituality, which always leads to good deeds but is not a "good deed" in itself.
If you are burned with fire, and suffer greatly, do not say "God, why have you done this to me? I am a good person. I have been a good person all of my life. Why have you allowed me to be burned and to suffer so?" Say: "I have done this to myself, for in this life or a previous life I burned someone, and now I am being burned for it, and this suffering of mine will burn away much of my Bad Karma, so that in my next life I will get a very good birth or I may even enter into the Kingdom of Heaven!"
If you get cancer, do not say: "Lord, I am a good person. Why did you give me cancer? I have done good in my life, so why are you cutting my life short and causing me to suffer so?" Say: "Lord, I brought this upon myself, for in a previous life I cut a life short, and now my life will be cut short, but this suffering of mine will burn away much of my Bad Karma, so that in my next life I will be born with a beautiful and healthy body and mind, or I may be born above into the Kingdom of Heaven!"
The Evangelicals believe that if you recite the Sinner's Prayer, and believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord, his blood upon the Cross will "clean" you of all previous sins, and you will at death go to an eternal Heavenly Choir that is composed of millions or billions of genderless angels, singing hymns to God and Jesus for all eternity, sometimes looking down between your feet at the Damned being burned, but this will bring "joy to the heart" because you know you're not burning in Hell. And good works mean nothing. A man who rapes and murders children for 30 years, if he says the Sinner's Prayer and believes in his heart that Jesus is Lord, and then is killed, he will go to the Heavenly Choir for all eternity, but Mother Teresa, the author of much good works, will burn in Hell-fire forever because she prayed to Mary, and was not truly a "born again" Christian.
Doctor Dahesh taught this was NONsense! Reciting a prayer cannot save us from Hell (the planets were the Suns burns our skin and we die of old age). Belonging to a Church or religion cannot save us. Attending meetings, wearing suits and ties, getting "priesthoods", going through Masonic like rituals, cannot save us nor "exalt" us. These are karmicly neutral. Neither do these actions send us to Hell. What sends us to Heaven or Hell is our own "actions" towards others.
The Realm of Hell are the planets in the Galactic Arms; where the Suns "burn" and age our skin. We feel pain, and we get old, and we die. Demons (socio-paths) "torment" us. We eat "bitter fruit". This is the meaning of "burning in Hell". And we shall return to "Hell" if we do not burn away all of our Bad Karma. The Mormon Church is FILLED with "demons" (socio-paths): liars, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, back-stabbers, smooth-faced ego-centric false accusers. They "torment" the good. That is actually their "karmic job".
The Kingdom of Heaven is the Galactic Core, where the Suns are very numerous and close together. There is no "night" there. All is day. Radiation is too intense there for any physical life to exist. But life exists there in Ethereal bodies. Ethereal humans and animals and plants. Everything that exists on this planet, and billions of other planets, but in ethereal form. Ethereal bodies do not "die" or "age" because they are not affected by the "rays" (fire) of the Suns. Our physical bodies "burn" under the UV rays of the Sun, but ethereal bodies do not "burn". When we age we are literally "burning". That is why the faces of the old look "melted". We are in "Hell" now! "Not so bad!" you say? Ok, then return. If you do evil towards others you'll return blind, or deformed, or you may go to a lower Hell-world that is quite awful compared to this planet. We are judged by our "works".
This planet too has an ethereal plane, but we can't see it. We must soul-travel, as Paul did, to see the ethereal plane, which is the Spirit-World. We must have a very high spiritual vibration in order to leave our physical bodies without dying. Only a "few" can see it sometimes. I once visited it, and it is a LOT like our plane, but the architecture is much more FANTASTIC (i.e. money is no object), and looking at the Sun does not hurt your eyes, and the sky is purple not blue. There are buildings, and schools, and houses just like here. People wear the same fashions that we popular in their own generation; so you see many different fashions. I visited what looked like a very small high school, and saw teen-agers (about a dozen). The school I visited had only a dozen students...young people who had died as teen-agers. They are literally in little high schools in the Spirit-World.
When you die and find yourself in the Spirit-World, no angel is going to appear to you and say: "Mormonism is true" or "Mormonism is false". You loved ones greet you. Your Mormon aunt is going to say: "See, Mormonism is true, this proves it!" Your Evangelical cousin will say: "Ah, this proves nothing! Mormonism is false! We are all in heaven!". Your aunt will say, "But we are Mormons, and you said Mormons cannot get to Heaven!" And your Evangelical cousin will say, "Well, we are all in Heaven because we all must be judged, and indeed Mormons are going to Hell after the Judgment, and I'm sure that will be coming soon! Jesus will appear soon to us and I'm going to stay here for eternity, but Mormons are going to Hell!" There are churches there just as there are here, and just as many. "God" will not appear to you just as He does not appear to you in this plane. The Agnostics will say, "Wow, there is an Afterlife after all!" The Atheists will say: "No! No! I'm in a coma in some hospital somewhere, and all of you are just part of my dream. None of you exist. Only I exist here because this is merely my dream. I hope I wake up soon!"
Every physical city, I can assure you, has it's ethereal equivolent. They just look different, but not very different. If you what to know what the Spirit-World is like, then look to the writings of the Brazilian Spiritists. They have many books in English.
To believe that the American Indians are really the descendants of Lehi the Jew and Ishmael the Arab, is not "good" or "bad". It is simply "ignorant" of the facts (in fact they have no Jewish or Arab DNA in their genetic histories). To believe in the Book of Mormon does not "damn" us to Hell, and neither does it "save" us from Hell. It is karmicly neutral; like a child believing in Santa Claus, or a person believing the Earth is flat. No good karma. No bad karma. But, if by reading the Book of Mormon, it leads you to "good works" then it is a good thing, since we are judged solely by our "works". If by reciting "The Sinner's Prayer" is "leads one to good works" then it indeed "can" SAVE us! The prayer does not save us, but the "good works" do, as Paul wrote:
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9-10)
The Ignorant (i.e. Evangelicals) believe this Verse means that one must only recite a Sinner's Prayer, and believe that Jesus is Lord (along with the Trinity, salvation by Grace alone, and many other doctrines and dogmas), the one is eternall "saved" (i.e. eternal genderless heavenly choir). But, Paul said that a man must "believe unto righteousness" to be saved. "Righteousness" means literally "right actions". Not mere "belief" but "actions". Daheshism could not agree more. "IF" the Sinner's Prayer and sincere belief leads to "right actions" then it leads to salvation. But only if "right actions" follow. We are saved by our "works" (actions); not by any "Sinner's Prayer" or sincere belief in our heads.
The Law of Moses does not "save" us from Hell; because the Law does not benefit other sentient beings. If I do not "kill" I am not doing bad karm, but neither am I doing good karma. If I rest on the Sabbath, what other sentient being am I benefiting? If I do not eat swine or shell-fish, this is a benefit to my health, but how is it benefiting others (except perhaps for the swine and shellfish)? The "works" of the Law cannot save me, but "righteousness" can, and it must be MY OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS as Jesus said:
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:20)
Jesus said: >>If you want to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, YOU must have more right actions (righteousness) than those of the scholars and Pharisees."<<
Jesus did NOT say: >>Your right actions are as filthy rags, and cannot save you. Say the Sinner's prayer and believe in your heart, and I will transfer MY right actions to you, but only if you also believe in the Trinity, salvation by grace alone, and that only the 66 books of the Protestant Bible is the Word of God.<<
Evangelicals believe that OUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS ____cannot____ save us (even though Jesus said the opposite), and our own righteousnes are as "filthy rags". They believe Jesus "transfers" His righteous to the true believer (i.e. the Evangelical Christian who believes in the Trinity, salvation by grace alone, and many other doctrines). Daheshism says: "This is IGNORANCE!" Doctor Dahesh should know, He was Jesus in a previous incarnation. He proved He was from God by His thousands of supernatural miracles. He raised the dead, healed the sick, turned water into wine, did things no magician could do, on a daily basis for seventy years.
If Jesus wanted to "transfer" His righteousness to us, He would have said: "Say the Sinner's Prayer, and believe that God raised me from the dead, and I will transfer my righteousness to YOU!"
He never said that. He said: "Unless YOUR righteousness (right actions) are greater than those of the Pharisees and Sadducees, you cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven".
Simple, direct, to the point...true! This agrees with Daheshism. It is totally opposed to Evangelicalism.
To believe in the Trinity, or Pre-Destination, or the Five Points of Calvinism, or any of the thousands of various Christian dogmas, is neither "good" nor "bad" but karmicly neutral. Does believing in the Trinity lead us to good works (treating other beings better or with good deeds)? The Catholic Church teaches you must go good deeds but 100,000 good deeds are meaningless unless you also accept the Pope of Rome and hundreds of other Cathoilic doctrines. The Evangelical churches teaches that the Holy Spirit will lead you and do good via your already being "saved" via the Sinner's Prayer. When I was a Mormon missionary in California, Evangelicals often spit upon us, or slammed the doors in our faces, or lied to us, or punched us, or threw boiling water upon us, or threatened to beat or kill us or run us off the road. Only a "few" Evangelicals treated us with kindness, and agreed to disagree with us agreeably. Most were rude, disrespectful, and some were threatening or violent. These things are BAD KARMA. And, these negative actions did not inspire us to leave Mormonism and accept Evangelicalism either. It had the opposite effect.
So, in conclusion, the Noble Spiritual Faith teaches that IT DOES NOT MATTER ONE FARTHING if Joseph Smith was a true or false prophet, or if the Book of Mormon is true or not. What matters is ____how we treat other sentient beings___ and absolutely "nothing" else! THAT IS ALL!
So, if being a Mormon "Helps" you "help" others, be a good Mormon! I've discovered that I don't need to sit through three hours of UTTER UBER-BOREDOM every Sunday in order to do good. I don't need to pay tithing (that goes for buildings and Church businesses...nothing to help the poor or widows or hungry). I sometimes contribute Fast Offerings, even though I am not a Mormon and do not go to Church; because I know these offerings will benefit the poor.
I know a good Mormon named Bob Durocher. He goes to Church, but he volunteers 8 hours a week at a soup kitchen for the poor and homeless, that is run by Jews! Most Mormons I knew would think Bob is foolish, since such volunteering does not personally "benefit" him (i.e. he gets no money for it, the Brethren are not asking him to do this). But, Bob will get benefits in that he is burning away Bad Karma by doing things that will positively effect others. He is doing "good deeds".
Most Mormons I knew believed that we are "judged" according to our earthly accomplishments:
*How many years one was active in the Church
*How many meetings one attended.
*How many times one went through the Temple
*How much money one gave to the Church
*How many Church callings one kept
*How they went on a mission
*How far up the Church hierarchy one got
*How much education one had
*How much one accomplished in business or profession
Most Mormen men "I" knew believed they were going to be "judged" based upon these factors. The fact that they had sex before marriage was irrevelavent as long as their bishops didn't know about it because "everybody lies about sex". These men are UTTERLY IGNORANT, and will discover they will not become Gods with multiple wives in the Celestial Kingdom! They will be judged SOLELY on "How" they treated others and nothing else.
Most Mormon women I knew believed they were judged according to...
*How many years they were active in Church
*How many times they went through the Temple.
*How many Church meetings they went to.
*How they were obedient to church leaders
*How they were obedient to their husbands
*How many Church callings they kept
*How they kept their homes clean
*How they raised their children to be good Mormons
They believe they will keep their husbands for eternity and reign on thrones in glorious palaces on worlds they help create, and their children will be with them, as children (i.e. their children will apparently not getting their own planets and wives but be will remain as children on the planets of their parents). They see glorious palaces, and servants, and thrones, and beautiful robes, and their children in happy settings, and their husbands by their sides.
But their husbands do "see" that. Their husbands see themselves having sex with their multitudes of beautiful wives, and even "stepping down" to have sex with their most beautiful spirit-daughers, as God the Father had sex with Mary, to produce saviors for their fallen worlds.
Mormon men see themselves as creating planets and having sex with beautiful young women all the time...including their most beautiful spirit-daughters.
Mormon women see themselves on thrones holding hands with their husbands being served by servants with their children playing at their feet, and bearing more spirit-children for eternity.
But....
You will not get to the Kingdom of Heaven via attending meetings, or belonging to True Churches, or obeying ignorant men who are not prophets, or believing that American Indians are really Jews, or attending secret Masonic-like rituals, or paying Tithing that benefits nobody but a few Church leaders and their families.
We shall ALL be judged solely according to how we kept ONE LAW: "Do unto others as ye would have them do unto you!" Attending meetings, keeping homes spotless, forcing kids to attend boring meetings that does not inspire them to do good deeds, keeping Church callings, paying tithing which does not benefit anyone but a few Church leaders who make MASSIVE amounts of money from being on Boards of Church owned business...has NO BENEFIT TO YOUR SOUL! We shall ALL be judged by one thing: How we kept The Golden Rule.
And...finally...
My 15 years as a Mormon, and 32 years of observing Mormons, convinces me that "most" Mormons don't undertand the Golden Rule: "Do unto others (all others...not just some) as you would like them to do unto you." Most Mormons I knew made all sort of "exceptions" to Golden Rule. They "watered it down" so much, and made so many "exceptions", that it became meaningless. But...there are no exceptions to the Golden Rule! None whatsoever. Most Mormons I knew have yet to learn that lesson: which is Lesson One, Day One, of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.
http://prophetoflebanon.webs.com