The day a "good Mormon" stole all my textbooks

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The year was 1992 I think, and I was enrolling at Highline College south of Seattle Washington. I just bought all my books. Spent about $250. Went to the Men's room to take a "Number Two". Well, inside the stawl was nowhere to put my books except the floor, but outside the stawl, long the wall, was a shelf for books. So, I put all my books on the shelf and proceded into the stawl and sat on the stool and did my business. I heard someone come into the men's room, and then I noticed they were not using the urinal and not washing their hands. I thought..."He's waiting for the toilet".

Then I heard my books SLIDE almost silently off the shelf and the door open quickly. I was RIGHT in the middle of my bowel-movement, but I HURRIED as fast as I could, opened the door and GONE! All of my books were GONE!!!

I remembered that one of by books, the most expensive one, which was knew, had a red X along the page-spine, a warped "x".

I ran out as fast as I could, looked around, nobody had any books. The guy was GONE.

Anyway, I had to pay abouther $250. The next Quarter came, and the school had a "buy back day"--buying back used textbooks. Four people ahead of me in line was a guy I'd seen all the time at the Mormon dances in Seattle. I had three books to sell. He had a huge heavy BOX that he pushed along the floor. I noticed him, and I deliberately got out of line so I could get close enough to look at his books. WHY did he have SO MANY BOOKS???? He had at least 15 books. Probably more.


Sure enough, he pulled out a book that had a large warped "X" along the page-spine. It was MY BOOK I had bought at the beginning of the last quarter! I thought about strangling the kid! I thought about saying, "Hey, that's MY BOOK!" But, how could I prove it? I could not. So, I got back into the end of the line.

p.s. And YES, of course, this theif was extremely popular with the Mormon women at the dances.

ATTENTION: Please read my post in Celestial Forum: "My Spiritual Journey from Mormonism to Daheshism". I think you'll like it.

[_Yoda]

Darrick--

Why are you so focused on the past?

What are you doing now to improve yourself?

Do you have a career you enjoy? Friends?

[_daheshism]

Dear Liz,

I believe revealing the "trauma" I went through as a Mormon is "therpeutic" for me. Kind of like Scientology "auditing" where you discuss negative things that have occurred to you, which "releases" more and more of the negativity of that event.

I once dated a Mormon girl whose father had had sex with her from age 6 to about 12 (no, he was never Mormon....a good Mormon woman married him). At 12 she tried to commit suicide. She went through many many years of "counselling". All "counselling" is is basically "discussing" the trauma. The more you discuss it, the "less" the trauma has a "traumatizing effect"upon you. At least that's the theory.

Now, the Church leaders would like me to "forget" all the negative things that have happened. They want me to get married to a very fat and ugly Mormon woman, pay 20% of my salary to the Church, attend boring meetings, obey stupid Mormon bishops, NEVER "think" but simply "obey" and my "reward" for all that is MORE job promotions, PROTECTION in travel, HEALTH, WEALTH, and in the end to become a God, have many wives, have sex for all eternity in glorious palaces on other planets.

But....I don't "buy" it anymore! I used to once, but never again. As a young Mormon at 18 years of age, I was told, repeatedly, that if I was active in Church, morally clean, etc., God would SEND ME a beatiful Mormon women to take to the Temple! Well, I WAS MORALLY CLEAN, and God only sent me fat/ugly women, which I sent back to Him unwrapped. And I saw over and over and over again, Gdo was "sending" beautiful young nubile women to all my single Mormon friends and roommate whom I KNEW were NOT living morally clean lives!

So, the Mormon "god" turned out to be a pathological liar! Certainly not a "god" I want to follow or obey.

So, Liz, in conclusion: discussing such things "helps me". It releases the "shock" of such memories. The same happens in "support groups" such as Mothers Of Murdered Children.

True, some here in Mormon Discussions call me a "liar" either directly or indirectly, or when I tell them the TRUTH they scream "You're a nust, you're delusional!" Basically, this was my Mormon experience too! I would tell the TRUTH and get called a LIAR for it. Still, it is helpful to my SOUL to "release" the "power" of thse events by discussing them, via chat, here on Mormon Discussions. It pleases me to reveal the TRUTH About Mormonism and Mormons for the world to see. It helps my WOUNDED SOUL. Hope I have explained myself.

Darrick--

Why are you so focused on the past?

What are you doing now to improve yourself?

Do you have a career you enjoy? Friends?

[_Yoda]

Darrick,

I don't believe that I have ever called you a liar regarding your experiences. What I have questioned is your blanket conclusions based on your experiences.

If we are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding the truthfulness of your experiences, are you willing to give us the benefit of ours?

Are you interested in simply writing your experiences, or are you hoping to gain perspective from others?

If all you are interested in doing is writing your own experiences to lighten your burdened soul, a blog may be a better medium than a message board. You could allow the comments you wanted to see and edit the ones that you didn't.

I just don't really see anything good for you coming out of posting here. You have a huge chip on your shoulder, categorize all women as stupid and superficial, and think that the world is out to get you.

Here is some news, Darrick. Life isn't fair. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. Sometimes good things happen to bad people. Life can suck that way.

However, if you manage to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, find a passion, and make something of yourself, life can be pretty terrific, too.

The only person you can change...is YOU.

And that change is not going to happen by consistently feeling sorry for yourself.

[_daheshism]

Liz,

1) All my experiences I have written in Mormon Discussions, from the very beginning, have been 100% truthful.

2) Do I think all women are "stupid"? No, I think it is very "wise" for Mormon women to give sex to men who are successful!!! It is "street smart". Often these men may marry the women, and provide for them and their off-spring. I don't think most Mormon women are "stupid". I have seen "stupid" Mormon women give guys sex, and the guys DUMP them! This is why we have marriage---so it was stupid of the women to think by giving sex to successful men, the men will want to marry them. Very stupid. Saw that over and over and over again. I merely say that Mormon women are governed by "instinct" (which Moses called the "serpent"). This is the MEANING of the Snake giving Eve and apple! I don't believe such a thing EVER happened! Snakes don't talk, and snakes don't give apples to naked women!, The author of Genesis was trying to tell us something about the NATURE OF ALL WOMEN---which is this: When women are confronted with two opposite commandments (DO NOT EAT/GO AHEAD AND EAT)...they will GO WITH THE SNAKE EVERY TIME! The "snake" being a symbool for Nature/Instinct.

And Mormon women are no different from any other human women! And human woman are female mammals, no different from any other female mammals!

I think most Mormon women are Hypocrites, because that has been my "honest" observation of the past 30 years. They are raised to be such in a Church that does not teach them the true gospel of Jesus Christ. The Church says: "YOU ARE GOOD! YOU ARE PURE! YOU ARE DAUGHTERS OF GOD!" simply because they are Mormons! Rather, the Church should tell them: "YOU ARE SINNERS AND WILL BE GOING TO HELL UNLESS YOU REPENT AND BECOME BORN AGAIN!" That is what the Book of Mormon actually teaches!

A Hypocritical Church produces hypocrites.

3) Although YOU have not called me a "liar" or inferred it (as you say), many have. These are men, or women, who are Ignoramuses. I've dealt with such all my life, before a Mormon, as a Mormon, and beyond. Ignoramuses are a fact of life. Indeed, I have LIED IN MY LIFE for good and not so good intents, but in Mormon Discussions I HAVE NOT LIED ONE TIME!!!

4) YOU (Liz) want me to "change". What do you want me to "change" into? I don't want to "change". I can't "change" for you, Liz.

[_MrStakhanovite]

I wish there was something I could do for you Darrick.

[_daheshism]

"Do unto others as ye would want them to do unto you"

That could be a good start.

I wish there was something I could do for you Darrick.

[_Yoda]

I don't want you to change, Darrick. I want you to figure out what would make you truly happy, and take the time to put together a plan to make that happen.

I would even be interested in hearing what that plan is. Frankly, that would be a lot more interesting to me than hearing about how the Mormon Church screwed you over.

[_Hoops]

A Hypocritical Church produces hypocrites.

You have this wrong, and until you figure this out, you will always be miserable. Every church is full of hypocrites. Absolutely bursting with hypocrites.

[_Blixa]

I wish there was something I could do for you Darrick.

I'll take a leaf out of Stak's book here, and say the same thing.

It's clear you're hurting. But it's also clear that the reason for that is not some conspiracy of Mormons, women or polynesians.

The fact that you've bought into a lot of sexist garbage like the "alpha male" claptrap you spout shows how far you are from grasping the conditions you suffer under. The same can be said of your obsession with Mormonism (which is not above criticism, but does not seem to be foundational to your emotional problems in the way you think that it is).

You need better help that you can get from random people on a message board. I know that it is difficult to find good and affordable psychological therapy. But one thing that some of the people on this board can help you with is figuring out where to start with that and what resources may be available to you.

If you ask seriously, you will get useful advice.