HEAVEN: What is it? How to obtain it?
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:08 am
Catholics: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from going to eternal Hell-fire.
How obtained: One must die in a state of grace, meaning one must have taken the Eucharist, the literal blood and body of Christ, and NOT committed a mortal sin, from the hands of a Roman Catholic priest or a priest acceptable by he Holy Father (pope) which NOW includes most Greek Orthodox, one Antiochian patriarchate (but not another), Chaldean Church, Assyrian Church, and "some" Old Catholic churches (but not others). If you are not a RomanCatholic, or a member of the Rites acceptable to the Holy Father, you will burn in Hell for all etenitiy. If you are Catholic or a member of the othe Rites acceptable by the Holy Father (Pope of Rome), and you die NOT in a state of grace, you'll go to Purgatory (demons torture you) until all your sins are paid for, then you go to Heaven or eternity.
(Liberal) Protestants: To be "saved" means having a good life and leaving behind friends and family who loved you.
How obtained: Most liberal Protestant churches have no concept of what "salvation" is other than "peace on Earth". They think little of the AFterlife, but generally believe there is no Hell, and "heaven" means simply to be thought well of by your friends and family who survive you. This "heaven" is obtained via having friends and family who love you and having a job you enjoy in life. It means having a "clear consience" in life and at the time of death (no regrets). Most liberal Protestants have no belief in any Afterlife, or if they do, give it no or little thought.
Evangelicals: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from going to eternal Hell-fire.
How obtained: You must merely confess with your mouth via a "Sinner's Prayer" that you are a sinner but Jesus has saved you, and he Lord, then you are "saved" and cannot be unsaved. The Holy Spirit will then direct you to a Bible believing Church wherein you'll pay the Pastor to expound the Bible to you so to improveyou "walk in the Lord"; although there are no variation of reward in Heaven, so WHY you need to go to Church and pay some guyto explain the Bible to you AFTER you have been saved is never explained. The Holy Spirit will rule your life, but you will still"sin" but Jesus' blood inthe Cross forgives you of all sin: past, present, and future. If you are a Christian you won't commit MAJOR sins such as murder or homosxulity etc., but you'll continue to commit MINOR sins. If you ae a Christian God will puish you here on Earth for minor sins (i.e. you'll get sick, or get robbed, or die in a car crash...God is punishing you for minor sins), but not in Heaven. Some Christians believe that if you lead a BAD life after you're saved God will "BIND" YOU" (you have no wings) in Heaven, but if you have a good life after you are saved God will not bind you (you'll have wings and can fly). NOTE: for 30 years I have tried to get Evangelicals to answer the question: "What sins can a saved Christian commit after being saved and still go to Heaven?" they ALL (100%) change the subject or walk away laughing (i.e. I catch them in a snare, but they don't wish to admit that to me, or themselves).
Mormons: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from "damnation" means "not becoming a God but a Servant Angel".
How obtained: Although the Book of Mormon says that the Devil inspires men to say "There is no Hell", in fact, most Mormons believe "There is no Hell". For Mormon men, "Hell" means not becoming a God, getting multiple wives, and having sex with them, and creating planets, for all eternity. For Mormon women, "Hell" is being separated from their loving husbands and children for all eternity (becoming a servant angel). To obtain "the Celestial Kingdom" one must be baptized (properly) into the LDS Church and remain a faithful Member all their lives; including doing whatever Church leaders command you to do (tithe paying, meeting attendance, temple attendance, obeying local and general church leaders, treating your wife and children with kindness, etc.). All humans are the sons and daughters of God. Being "born again" is never mentioned or discussed by Church leaders or in any Mormon ward or meeting. Mormons are told that their "salvation" (i.e. to become a God) is totally dependent upon "following the Brethren".
The Book of Mormon: To be "saved" means to be "exampted" from an unending Hell.
How achieved: To be saved one must be "born again" via the Holy Spirit; basically to realize one is a sinner, going to an unending Hell, this "conviction of sin" brings a hellish guilt and fear of going to an unending Hell, then the soul cries out to Jesus for forgiveness, and then Holy Spirit baptizes that soul with "fire and the Holy Spirit" and the person has no more guilt or fear, but now (not before) has become a begotten "son" or "daughter" of God.
Muslims: To be 'saved" means to be "exempted" from going to eternal Hell-fire.
How obtained: You must be a Muslim and be studious in your prayers and alms, obey the imaam or ayatollahs, and your good works must outweigh your bad deeds. If you are a Muslim and your bad deeds outweighs your good works,then you'll go to Hell temporarily. All non-muslims will burn in Hell-fire for all eternity; no matter how many good works they do, because they rejected Islaam. All who do not go to Hell go to Paradise, which includes having many wives, sex (with women and boys), reclinding upon thrones, drinking nectar, eating delicious fruit, and being served by male and female servants forever.
Baha'is: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from feeling guilty about not working for race unity and world peace in the Afterlife.
How obtained: To not "feel sad" about not working for race unity and world peace, one must become a Baha'i, or join the Peace Corps or some other NGO. Then, at death, everyone goes back to God; some feeling "happy" they worked for world peace and race unity and the equality of men and women, and others feeling "sad and guilty" they never did work for these things while on Earth. Those who are "happy" are in "Heaven". Those who are "sad" are in "Hell". "Heaven" for Baha'is is to meet again with friends and family (although there is no sex and no begetting of children) and to sit in circles discussing subjects like world peace and race unity with them for all eternity.
Spiritis/Spiritualists: To be "saved" means going to Summerland at death.
How obtained: there are seven planes in the Spirit-World, 1 through 7, the highest being "Summerland" where it is always Summer time. Summerland is a lot like our world with cities and animals and forests and oceans, but it is always pleasant. To obtain Summerland once has to die with a clear consience, which means not to do things one "regrets" later. Regrets brings one "down" to lower planes in the Spirit-World. But the Spirit-World is not eternal, but a way-station between incarnations. Spiritists/Spiritualists have no knowledge of any ultimate Heaven or Hell; just Summerland in the Spirit-World, or the Land oof Darkenss in the Spirit-World, both of which are not eternal in duration.
Hindus: To be "saved" means to be liberated from the Wheel of Rebirth and be born into the heavenly planets.
How obtained: By various means, all include "Yoga" of some sort: either Bawktee Yoga (devotion....like how Evangelicals worship Jesus), or other forms of Yoga that includes good deeds, or breathing techniques, or Tantra (sexual yoga where there is no orgasm), or mental concentration, or a variation of these yogas. The heavenly planets are considered very lovely places where there is no physical labor, everyone eats the fruit from the trees, no death and no ageing.
Buddhists and Jains: To be "saved" means to be "liberated" from the Wheel of Rebirth and to be born into the Deva-Lokas.
How obtained: To be "liberated" from the Wheel of Rebirth (i.e. humans and animals) and be born into the Deva-Lokas (higher realms) one must burn away their karma via suffering and good works. Sex. Meat eating. Killing. Killing animals. Eating animals. All these things add "karma' to the soul. To clean the soul of Karma means abstaining from all violence (ahimsa), not eating the flesh of animals, not have sex of any kind, only eating food others would have eaten (i.e. not even killing planets yourself), and meditation (to purify your thoughts and speech). Once your have "burned away" all your Karma (which sticks to your soul like dirt on clothing and weighs it down), then you can be born into one of the Deva worlds for a very long and blissful life. But the Deva worlds are not "eternal". The only "eternal" is Nirvana; which only a chosen few reach. Once Nirvana is reached they do not return, but experience Eternal Bliss in Absolute Nothingness.
Zoroastrians: To be "saved" means to go to the House of Song where Ahura Mazda lives and not return to the House of Lies.
How obtained: If one's good deeds outweigh one's bad deeds, then you go to the Bridge of Separation, and you will walk over the Bridge into the House of Song; which is considered a "good place". If your bad deeds outweight your good deeds, then you walk over the Bridge of Separation and the Bridge will become as thin as the edge of a shart sword, and you fall into a "Gulf of Fire" and "return" to the House of Lies. But, at the end of days, all in the House of Lies must pass through a wall of Fire, and this will clean them, and all will eventually enter the House of Song.
Orthodox Jews: To be resurrected and inherit the World-to-Come.
How Obtained: by keeping all of the Laws revealed by God to Moses the best one can until one dies, and then you merit resurrection in the World to Come that is essentially like the Garden of Eden.
Liberal Jews: see Liberal Protestants.
Radhasoamis: To be "liberated" from the Wheel of Reburth and enter into the highest plane of existence.
How obtained: One must be "initiated" by a Sat Guru ("True Leader Out of Darkness") who teaches you five secret words that you must gives to angels that guard your way to the Highest Realm. And your Sat Guru must accomapany you, so you must be on his good terms! The SatGuru must have a true successorship from Guru Nanak Dev. In order to be spiritually prepared for this Soul-Journey one must be a vegan and meditate at least two hours per day as well as be "initiated" by a SatGuru or his deputy.
Eckankar and MSIA: same as Radhasoami.
Atheists/Agnostics: To obtain the "Good Life".
How obtained: Via a good education, the Good Life is obtained either by inheriting money or getting a job that makes a lot of money, having a good time, having good friends, having the most pleasant experiences you can have, the best memories you can think about in the nursing home, then you die and you cease to exist.
Daheshists: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from the Hell-planets where the Sun burns our skin.
How obtained: To reach a Paradise planet, and escape re-birth on a Hell-planet (like Earth), one has to reach a very high level of spirituality, and this is achieved by burning away Karma via suffering and good works. If enough karma is burned away, then the soul will be resurrected on a Paradise planet where there is no ageing, no suffering, all the joys of earth life (including sex) but none of its sorrows. THE ATHEIST WHO DOES MORE GOOD WORKS THAN THE CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIMS OR Mormon OR HINDU OR BUDDHIST WILL GET A BETTER REWARD THAN THEY IN THEIR NEXT INCARNATION. Nirvana is the highest state which means to be absorbed into God and is only achieved after millions of lifetimes when a soul becomes absolutely sinless. Nirvana cannot be described other thn Eternal Bliss.
How obtained: One must die in a state of grace, meaning one must have taken the Eucharist, the literal blood and body of Christ, and NOT committed a mortal sin, from the hands of a Roman Catholic priest or a priest acceptable by he Holy Father (pope) which NOW includes most Greek Orthodox, one Antiochian patriarchate (but not another), Chaldean Church, Assyrian Church, and "some" Old Catholic churches (but not others). If you are not a RomanCatholic, or a member of the Rites acceptable to the Holy Father, you will burn in Hell for all etenitiy. If you are Catholic or a member of the othe Rites acceptable by the Holy Father (Pope of Rome), and you die NOT in a state of grace, you'll go to Purgatory (demons torture you) until all your sins are paid for, then you go to Heaven or eternity.
(Liberal) Protestants: To be "saved" means having a good life and leaving behind friends and family who loved you.
How obtained: Most liberal Protestant churches have no concept of what "salvation" is other than "peace on Earth". They think little of the AFterlife, but generally believe there is no Hell, and "heaven" means simply to be thought well of by your friends and family who survive you. This "heaven" is obtained via having friends and family who love you and having a job you enjoy in life. It means having a "clear consience" in life and at the time of death (no regrets). Most liberal Protestants have no belief in any Afterlife, or if they do, give it no or little thought.
Evangelicals: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from going to eternal Hell-fire.
How obtained: You must merely confess with your mouth via a "Sinner's Prayer" that you are a sinner but Jesus has saved you, and he Lord, then you are "saved" and cannot be unsaved. The Holy Spirit will then direct you to a Bible believing Church wherein you'll pay the Pastor to expound the Bible to you so to improveyou "walk in the Lord"; although there are no variation of reward in Heaven, so WHY you need to go to Church and pay some guyto explain the Bible to you AFTER you have been saved is never explained. The Holy Spirit will rule your life, but you will still"sin" but Jesus' blood inthe Cross forgives you of all sin: past, present, and future. If you are a Christian you won't commit MAJOR sins such as murder or homosxulity etc., but you'll continue to commit MINOR sins. If you ae a Christian God will puish you here on Earth for minor sins (i.e. you'll get sick, or get robbed, or die in a car crash...God is punishing you for minor sins), but not in Heaven. Some Christians believe that if you lead a BAD life after you're saved God will "BIND" YOU" (you have no wings) in Heaven, but if you have a good life after you are saved God will not bind you (you'll have wings and can fly). NOTE: for 30 years I have tried to get Evangelicals to answer the question: "What sins can a saved Christian commit after being saved and still go to Heaven?" they ALL (100%) change the subject or walk away laughing (i.e. I catch them in a snare, but they don't wish to admit that to me, or themselves).
Mormons: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from "damnation" means "not becoming a God but a Servant Angel".
How obtained: Although the Book of Mormon says that the Devil inspires men to say "There is no Hell", in fact, most Mormons believe "There is no Hell". For Mormon men, "Hell" means not becoming a God, getting multiple wives, and having sex with them, and creating planets, for all eternity. For Mormon women, "Hell" is being separated from their loving husbands and children for all eternity (becoming a servant angel). To obtain "the Celestial Kingdom" one must be baptized (properly) into the LDS Church and remain a faithful Member all their lives; including doing whatever Church leaders command you to do (tithe paying, meeting attendance, temple attendance, obeying local and general church leaders, treating your wife and children with kindness, etc.). All humans are the sons and daughters of God. Being "born again" is never mentioned or discussed by Church leaders or in any Mormon ward or meeting. Mormons are told that their "salvation" (i.e. to become a God) is totally dependent upon "following the Brethren".
The Book of Mormon: To be "saved" means to be "exampted" from an unending Hell.
How achieved: To be saved one must be "born again" via the Holy Spirit; basically to realize one is a sinner, going to an unending Hell, this "conviction of sin" brings a hellish guilt and fear of going to an unending Hell, then the soul cries out to Jesus for forgiveness, and then Holy Spirit baptizes that soul with "fire and the Holy Spirit" and the person has no more guilt or fear, but now (not before) has become a begotten "son" or "daughter" of God.
Muslims: To be 'saved" means to be "exempted" from going to eternal Hell-fire.
How obtained: You must be a Muslim and be studious in your prayers and alms, obey the imaam or ayatollahs, and your good works must outweigh your bad deeds. If you are a Muslim and your bad deeds outweighs your good works,then you'll go to Hell temporarily. All non-muslims will burn in Hell-fire for all eternity; no matter how many good works they do, because they rejected Islaam. All who do not go to Hell go to Paradise, which includes having many wives, sex (with women and boys), reclinding upon thrones, drinking nectar, eating delicious fruit, and being served by male and female servants forever.
Baha'is: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from feeling guilty about not working for race unity and world peace in the Afterlife.
How obtained: To not "feel sad" about not working for race unity and world peace, one must become a Baha'i, or join the Peace Corps or some other NGO. Then, at death, everyone goes back to God; some feeling "happy" they worked for world peace and race unity and the equality of men and women, and others feeling "sad and guilty" they never did work for these things while on Earth. Those who are "happy" are in "Heaven". Those who are "sad" are in "Hell". "Heaven" for Baha'is is to meet again with friends and family (although there is no sex and no begetting of children) and to sit in circles discussing subjects like world peace and race unity with them for all eternity.
Spiritis/Spiritualists: To be "saved" means going to Summerland at death.
How obtained: there are seven planes in the Spirit-World, 1 through 7, the highest being "Summerland" where it is always Summer time. Summerland is a lot like our world with cities and animals and forests and oceans, but it is always pleasant. To obtain Summerland once has to die with a clear consience, which means not to do things one "regrets" later. Regrets brings one "down" to lower planes in the Spirit-World. But the Spirit-World is not eternal, but a way-station between incarnations. Spiritists/Spiritualists have no knowledge of any ultimate Heaven or Hell; just Summerland in the Spirit-World, or the Land oof Darkenss in the Spirit-World, both of which are not eternal in duration.
Hindus: To be "saved" means to be liberated from the Wheel of Rebirth and be born into the heavenly planets.
How obtained: By various means, all include "Yoga" of some sort: either Bawktee Yoga (devotion....like how Evangelicals worship Jesus), or other forms of Yoga that includes good deeds, or breathing techniques, or Tantra (sexual yoga where there is no orgasm), or mental concentration, or a variation of these yogas. The heavenly planets are considered very lovely places where there is no physical labor, everyone eats the fruit from the trees, no death and no ageing.
Buddhists and Jains: To be "saved" means to be "liberated" from the Wheel of Rebirth and to be born into the Deva-Lokas.
How obtained: To be "liberated" from the Wheel of Rebirth (i.e. humans and animals) and be born into the Deva-Lokas (higher realms) one must burn away their karma via suffering and good works. Sex. Meat eating. Killing. Killing animals. Eating animals. All these things add "karma' to the soul. To clean the soul of Karma means abstaining from all violence (ahimsa), not eating the flesh of animals, not have sex of any kind, only eating food others would have eaten (i.e. not even killing planets yourself), and meditation (to purify your thoughts and speech). Once your have "burned away" all your Karma (which sticks to your soul like dirt on clothing and weighs it down), then you can be born into one of the Deva worlds for a very long and blissful life. But the Deva worlds are not "eternal". The only "eternal" is Nirvana; which only a chosen few reach. Once Nirvana is reached they do not return, but experience Eternal Bliss in Absolute Nothingness.
Zoroastrians: To be "saved" means to go to the House of Song where Ahura Mazda lives and not return to the House of Lies.
How obtained: If one's good deeds outweigh one's bad deeds, then you go to the Bridge of Separation, and you will walk over the Bridge into the House of Song; which is considered a "good place". If your bad deeds outweight your good deeds, then you walk over the Bridge of Separation and the Bridge will become as thin as the edge of a shart sword, and you fall into a "Gulf of Fire" and "return" to the House of Lies. But, at the end of days, all in the House of Lies must pass through a wall of Fire, and this will clean them, and all will eventually enter the House of Song.
Orthodox Jews: To be resurrected and inherit the World-to-Come.
How Obtained: by keeping all of the Laws revealed by God to Moses the best one can until one dies, and then you merit resurrection in the World to Come that is essentially like the Garden of Eden.
Liberal Jews: see Liberal Protestants.
Radhasoamis: To be "liberated" from the Wheel of Reburth and enter into the highest plane of existence.
How obtained: One must be "initiated" by a Sat Guru ("True Leader Out of Darkness") who teaches you five secret words that you must gives to angels that guard your way to the Highest Realm. And your Sat Guru must accomapany you, so you must be on his good terms! The SatGuru must have a true successorship from Guru Nanak Dev. In order to be spiritually prepared for this Soul-Journey one must be a vegan and meditate at least two hours per day as well as be "initiated" by a SatGuru or his deputy.
Eckankar and MSIA: same as Radhasoami.
Atheists/Agnostics: To obtain the "Good Life".
How obtained: Via a good education, the Good Life is obtained either by inheriting money or getting a job that makes a lot of money, having a good time, having good friends, having the most pleasant experiences you can have, the best memories you can think about in the nursing home, then you die and you cease to exist.
Daheshists: To be "saved" means to be "exempted" from the Hell-planets where the Sun burns our skin.
How obtained: To reach a Paradise planet, and escape re-birth on a Hell-planet (like Earth), one has to reach a very high level of spirituality, and this is achieved by burning away Karma via suffering and good works. If enough karma is burned away, then the soul will be resurrected on a Paradise planet where there is no ageing, no suffering, all the joys of earth life (including sex) but none of its sorrows. THE ATHEIST WHO DOES MORE GOOD WORKS THAN THE CHRISTIAN OR MUSLIMS OR Mormon OR HINDU OR BUDDHIST WILL GET A BETTER REWARD THAN THEY IN THEIR NEXT INCARNATION. Nirvana is the highest state which means to be absorbed into God and is only achieved after millions of lifetimes when a soul becomes absolutely sinless. Nirvana cannot be described other thn Eternal Bliss.