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Happy Pioneer Day, everyone!

I went to church in my pioneer skirt today hoping to get my pioneer on but sadly there was nary a mention of it or pioneers all day. :( So sad.

Anyway, I got an ancestor who was in the Brigham Young Company and all that jazz. So, YAY!

Bleah. Not my pioneers.

I had some Nauvoo ancestors who crossed the plains, but apparently they kept going to the California gold fields and forgot all about being Mormons. Yay!

Lucretia MacEvil wrote:I had some Nauvoo ancestors who crossed the plains, but apparently they kept going to the California gold fields and forgot all about being Mormons. Yay!

Smart!

My husband has some immigrants from Denmark who became very unhappy after coming to Utah. The dad hated Brigham and did not want his young daughters to become polygamous brides. So, they left in the cover of darkness...so the story goes.

just me wrote:So, they left in the cover of darkness...so the story goes.

Why would they have to sneak out? Surely no one would stop them from leaving openly...

What is that?

Oh, yeah. 99.999% of the world doesn't give a crap.

V/R
Dr. Cam

harmony wrote:

just me wrote:So, they left in the cover of darkness...so the story goes.

Why would they have to sneak out? Surely no one would stop them from leaving openly...

It was the 1860s. Peeps were scared of retribution against covenant breakers, apostates, whathaveyou. Dark times.

just me wrote:It was the 1860s. Peeps were scared of retribution against covenant breakers, apostates, whathaveyou. Dark times.

Doesn't sound much like the God of love, does it?

harmony wrote:

just me wrote:It was the 1860s. Peeps were scared of retribution against covenant breakers, apostates, whathaveyou. Dark times.

Doesn't sound much like the God of love, does it?

No. But it does resemble the Mormon God. ;)

harmony wrote:Doesn't sound much like the God of love, does it?

That's right. Accept the claim at face value as the complete and exhaustive truth. After all, it's negative toward the Church.

harmony wrote:Bleah. Not my pioneers.

Here's my Deseret News "Pioneer Day" column from Thursday:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7001 ... ntity.html

Overwhelmingly, in my now fairly considerable experience, believing Latter-day Saints around the world regard the 1846-1869 Utah pioneers as at least among "their pioneers" whether or not those pioneers are biological ancestors. I'm perplexed by those very few who don't -- though I'm not at all surprised that unbelieving or nominal members of the Church feel no connection to earlier Saints.

Queue Joey: I have no life, I'm not a Captain of Industry like he is, I've never held a real job, I'm an insignificant loser, "only in Provo, baby," etc., etc.