FAIR launches "Mormon Defense League"

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FAIR launches "Mormon Defense League"

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This cracks me up.

With two Mormons in the presidential campaign and a hit Broadway show about LDS missionaries, a group of church loyalists says the time is ripe to begin scrutinizing media reports for inaccuracies about the Utah-based faith.

The Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research has announced it is launching the Mormon Defense League to help journalists "get it right," said Scott Gordon, FAIR's president, who will direct the new project.

If the MDL notices a misstatement or mischaracterization, the group will first contact the journalist, Gordon said. But if a pattern of misrepresentation emerges, the defense league will "go after the writer" by posting the piece or pieces on its website (mdl.org) and pointing out the errors.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/lif ... z1UosB4uPD

I do hope being a "Defense League" they get to wear tights!

Wait, this is opposite of past tactics. Usually it is "go after the writer" first and ignore the truth.

I say fine Gordon. I highly doubt anyone is really going to go find the side mdl.org to make sure a cult isn't a cult.

I guarantee you in their search they'll hit the MC a whole hell of a lot faster than mdl.org.

But you guys go ahead because it makes you feel good. Shield of faith, breastplate of righteousness and all that lovely feelgoodness.

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Like this, only everyone's kind of pudgy. Also, their super powers range from intellectual dishonesty to obfuscation to white washing to ad hoc invention.
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I don't understand why Superheroes wear their underwear on the outside. It's odd, and off putting.

Do you think the Mormon Defense League will wear their garmets on the outside? I hope not. :/
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Re: FAIR launches "Mormon Defense League"

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If the Mormon defense is "neither sponsored by nor endorsed by the Mormon Church," then what good is it? Why should anyone care about corrections regarding church doctrine etc. by a group that has no authority to make corrections?

...go after the writer...


It's pretty much about that.
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Re: FAIR launches "Mormon Defense League"

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[url]MDL.org[/url]
"The intent is to assist journalists, authors, bloggers, producers, and others in the media in getting their stories right, and to correct misinformation and distortions about Mormons, Mormonism, and other faith communities."
My emphasis.

Casting a pretty broad net, no?
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With two Mormons in the presidential campaign and a hit Broadway show about LDS missionaries, a group of church loyalists says the time is ripe to begin scrutinizing media reports for inaccuracies about the Utah-based faith.

The Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research has announced it is launching the Mormon Defense League to help journalists "get it right," said Scott Gordon, FAIR's president, who will direct the new project.

If the MDL notices a misstatement or mischaracterization, the group will first contact the journalist, Gordon said. But if a pattern of misrepresentation emerges, the defense league will "go after the writer" by posting the piece or pieces on its website (mdl.org) and pointing out the errors.


What are they going to do if the article is uncomfortably correct? Destroy the printing press?
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harmony wrote:
With two Mormons in the presidential campaign and a hit Broadway show about LDS missionaries, a group of church loyalists says the time is ripe to begin scrutinizing media reports for inaccuracies about the Utah-based faith.

The Foundation for Apologetic Information and Research has announced it is launching the Mormon Defense League to help journalists "get it right," said Scott Gordon, FAIR's president, who will direct the new project.

If the MDL notices a misstatement or mischaracterization, the group will first contact the journalist, Gordon said. But if a pattern of misrepresentation emerges, the defense league will "go after the writer" by posting the piece or pieces on its website (mdl.org) and pointing out the errors.


What are they going to do if the article is uncomfortably correct? Destroy the printing press?


Fortunately, this Mormon defense league doesn't have near the power Joseph Smith did in Nauvoo. I'm guessing they will be largely ignored.
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Re: FAIR launches "Mormon Defense League"

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Gadianton wrote:If the Mormon defense is "neither sponsored by nor endorsed by the Mormon Church," then what good is it? Why should anyone care about corrections regarding church doctrine etc. by a group that has no authority to make corrections?

...go after the writer...


It's pretty much about that.


I agree. Mopologetics has always been about revenge, and under the current leadership, it likely always will be.
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Re: FAIR launches "Mormon Defense League"

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If the Church (as an organization) told the truth then there would be no need for an independant vigilante group such as this one.

But I suppose that if the Church told the truth then there would be much less need for the bamboozlement nonesense of Mormon apologetics.
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Re: FAIR launches "Mormon Defense League"

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Scott Gordon just wants to be snarky. I'm pretty doubtful that the chapel Mormon will ever even know that the MDL exists. I would think if anything the boys down at the COB don't want the chapel Mormon to know about the MDL. The MDL can provoke questions. Questions can lead to research and that can lead to apostasy.

As I've said before, I'm all for supporting FAIR. Before I will ever direct a questioning Mormon to sites like the MC or UTLM or I4m - I will first direct them at FAIR. I know from experience that they will be back. And when they start asking the harder questions, I smile as people at FAIR turn from providing answers to attacking them.

Scott needs to be shooped into some tights, some Jesus Jammies kind of stripling warrior super hero.

http://www.blacklds.org/wp-content/uplo ... gordon.jpg

You know, looking at that statue next to him creeps me out.
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