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the sin of alcohol. Where did it come from.

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:23 am
by _dogmatic
Just curious where the sin of drinking came from. Was it from a revelation? I just wounder if the early Christians, new testament acts Christians ,could have been Mormon, because they drank real alcohol with real alcohol content that could cause drunkeness in one setting. I would say Jesus drank the same alcohol as the new testament Christians. were they all sinning? Were they even sinning at the lords supper each week when they drank real wine? Who gives Mormons the right to call something sin that Jesus himself promoted. Not only him but the whole Bible.

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:19 am
by _Jersey Girl
There is no such thing.

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:42 am
by _dogmatic
Jersey Girl wrote:There is no such thing.

Hu? No such sin?

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:45 am
by _Jersey Girl
dogmatic wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:There is no such thing.

Hu? No such sin?


Right. No such sin.

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:58 am
by _dogmatic
Joke: I went to lunch with the church and I ordered a glass if wine. The old lady across from me said "I thought you were a Christian why are you drinking" I said, you know Christ drank wine. She said, I know and I would have thought so much more of him if he hadn't

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:05 am
by _The Nehor
dogmatic wrote:Just curious where the sin of drinking came from. Was it from a revelation?


Yes, read D&C 89. Note that it is not a permanent law and was put into effect only because of conditions at the current time.

The Christian temperance movement tends more to come from Old and New Testament references about the danger of alcoholic consumption in certain matters (particularly judgment).

I just wounder if the early Christians, new testament acts Christians ,could have been Mormon, because they drank real alcohol with real alcohol content that could cause drunkeness in one setting.


It doesn't matter. Their dispensation is not ours. If they lived today they'd be under the temporary law. If not, not.

I would say Jesus drank the same alcohol as the new testament Christians.


I would agree.

were they all sinning? Were they even sinning at the lords supper each week when they drank real wine?


No and no.

Who gives Mormons the right to call something sin that Jesus himself promoted. Not only him but the whole Bible.


Jesus did. He is the one who gave D&C 89. He can also rescind it if he wishes. He might.

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:36 am
by _dogmatic
Thanks. A man made law. that's what I figured it might be. So I guess from that statement everything espoused as a eternal truth or ordinance or prohibition in the d&c is from Jesus?

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:06 am
by _Equality
There's no such thing as sin, so no sin for drinking. The whole concept of "sin" is fabricated by humans who want to exert control over other humans.

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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:03 am
by _dogmatic
Equality wrote:There's no such thing as sin, so no sin for drinking. The whole concept of "sin" is fabricated by humans who want to exert control over other humans.

I sincerely wish that were true.

Re: the sin of alcohol. Where did it come from.

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:11 am
by _Equality
dogmatic wrote:
Equality wrote:There's no such thing as sin, so no sin for drinking. The whole concept of "sin" is fabricated by humans who want to exert control over other humans.

I sincerely wish that were true.

Your wish is my command.