Schryver from Kinderhook Bomb

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Re: Schryver from Kinderhook Bomb

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I'll get to the First Vision stuff, Bushman, and the rest of your post later today, Droopy, but first I want to ask about this:

Droopy wrote:Well, that's a pretty classic Signature Books kind of naturalistic/psychological explanation for pretty much all of Joseph's metaphysical experiences leading to the origin of the church. I would have to term this "anti-Mormon" in the sense that it directly confronts and denies core elements of what LDS understand to be the historic events leading to the restoration of the gospel.

[SNIP]

So this is, again, a direct oppositional perspective to that of the Church and the personal records of events left by the Church's founders. This would have to be understood as contra-Mormon, as the Church's origin claims must be rejected outright if your position is adopted.

[SNIP]

But if you don't accept this core concept, then this again, is "contra" to settled church teaching.

Okay. So, what sort of answers would a non-member have to give to your questions 2, 3, and 4 in order to not be considered "anti-Mormon" by you?

Because non-Mormons do deny core elements of what the LDS church claims and teaches. If we didn't, we probably wouldn't be non-Mormons; we'd be Mormons.
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Droopy wrote:
Blixa wrote:Believe me, I'll try to learn my lesson to never engage with you again. But I can't let this lie pass. You have a short memory.



I don't lie. I'll leave that to the amoeboid creatures that float about in the Cesspark seeking whom they can devour. I don't recall a single instance when you've ever engaged me here in which you were not in full vision-of-the-anointed mode.

Never engage me again? You won't get any argument from me there.


Get a grip, Droopy. "Vision of the anointed"? All it takes for you to get defensive is for someone to merely hint that they've gotten an education.

Oh, and I haven't forgotten that you said my "child" was "in rehab" due to me being such a terrible parent. Way to keep it classy, Droopy.
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Re: Schryver from Kinderhook Bomb

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Get a grip, Droopy. "Vision of the anointed"? All it takes for you to get defensive is for someone to merely hint that they've gotten an education.


Oh no, I love people who actually have an education. What I have problems with is half-educated leftists who are stuffed into a small, high temperature academic niche (especially in the humanities or "social sciences") from within which they look out upon the world as if that niche was the prism from within which the world could actually be understood.

Not a single book Gad asked me to produce, as ones I thought a leftist should be familiar with even registered with Blixa, did they Scratch? Not a one. I wonder if even the classic continental philosophers I mentioned as key to leftist thought lit up any bulbs in that room. You even wondered out loud if I actually had those authors on my shelves.

Really, Scratch, you and the posse here keep exposing yourselves, time and again, as a self satisfied - but deeply intellectually insecure - coterie of the Annointed; secular, leftist intellectual snobs who find themselves continually flummoxed and sent into paroxysms by others who actually, really, and truly are "educated" in the classic sense.

Much of what goes on in the modern academy is not education, but more like a carefully selected and circumscribed catechism. Blixa, and a number of others here, are the products of that system. Or rather, they allowed themselves to become products of it. Some of the people around here, judging from what went on last night, are also the products of severely dysfunctional family environments.

I survived my K-12 education, and then heavily educated myself for a quarter century before returning to academia. That makes all the difference in the world. That, and having a deeply rooted background in the restored gospel.

Oh, and I haven't forgotten that you said my "child" was "in rehab" due to me being such a terrible parent. Way to keep it classy, Droopy.


I don't even know that you have a child, Scratch. It was just return fire to level the playing field upon which you had already thrown your butt plugs.
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Re: Schryver from Kinderhook Bomb

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Doctor Scratch wrote:...
Oh, and I haven't forgotten that you said my "child" was "in rehab" due to me being such a terrible parent. Way to keep it classy, Droopy.


Droopy said that?

If so, yuk, and shame on Droopy. If not, please correct.
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Chap wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:...
Oh, and I haven't forgotten that you said my "child" was "in rehab" due to me being such a terrible parent. Way to keep it classy, Droopy.


Droopy said that?

If so, yuk, and shame on Droopy. If not, please correct.



It was an insulting jest, apropos to the vulgar insults and references Scratch had already thrown my way (along with the other members of the chat room last night, trading in ferry loads of four letter sexual references, explicit banter about sex and menstruation, and a continual slide show of gay porn and temple garments).

True enough, I shouldn't have been drawn into it, but, being human, sometimes I like a little dust up with the posse.

Now, I thought this was all against board rules?
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I could have told Scratch to go up to a dam and watch a beaver eat his jacket, but, you know, for certain people, that's a misogynistic sexual reference.

You one can't win for losing around here.
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Chap wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:...
Oh, and I haven't forgotten that you said my "child" was "in rehab" due to me being such a terrible parent. Way to keep it classy, Droopy.


Droopy said that?

If so, yuk, and shame on Droopy. If not, please correct.



Droopy wrote:

It was an insulting jest, apropos to the vulgar insults and references Scratch had already thrown my way (along with the other members of the chat room last night, trading in ferry loads of four letter sexual references, explicit banter about sex and menstruation, and a continual slide show of gay porn and temple garments).

True enough, I shouldn't have been drawn into it, but, being human, sometimes I like a little dust up with the posse.

Now, I thought this was all against board rules?


So you're sorry for what you did, and will try not to do it again? Please?
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Chap wrote:
Doctor Scratch wrote:...
Oh, and I haven't forgotten that you said my "child" was "in rehab" due to me being such a terrible parent. Way to keep it classy, Droopy.


Droopy said that?

If so, yuk, and shame on Droopy. If not, please correct.


Yes, he did say that. He starts lashing out whenever he feels threatened. As I recall, EA wound up providing some account of Droopy flipping his lid and saying a number of extremely offensive things---plus we can't forget Droopy's misogynist attacks on Beastie and Moniker. It's something of a trend with Droopy. The guy has issues.

But as to his attacks on me---by now I'm used to this sort of thing from LDS defenders. Heck, for the past half decade or so, Dan Peterson has been telling me that I'm "insane," "emotionally and/or mentally disturbed," that I deserve to be incarcerated and/or "committed," that I deserve to be shot, that I have no friends, that I'm unemployed, that I need "smelling salts" and/or that I need to be heavily medicated due to mental illness (using mental illness as a means of insult is a favorite of his) etc., etc. Par for the course, if you know what I mean.
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So you're sorry for what you did, and will try not to do it again? Please?


No, not at all. In context, it was a joke insult perfectly in harmony with what was being lobbed my way, and in no sense really mean-spirited in the way poor, abused Scratch makes it sound (and devoid of the raw vulgarity coming out of the good Dr. Scratch).

What I'm sorry for is staying around at all and mixing it up with the posse when it became obvious that the chat room had turned into Hustler TV.
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As I recall, Loran, you rather obsessively kept harping on "nipple clamps" and "Blue Boy." Several people had to ask what "Blue Boy" was. It's intriguing that someone who is allegedly a Melchezidek priesthood holder and a believer in the "restored Gospel" has to teach these apparent vulgarians about "Blue Boy."

As I said: keep it classy, Droopy.
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