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I was perusing Darth J's blog when I made the startling discovery:





From: http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/2000s/2001RBSt.htm
Darth's blog: blog.php?u=7958&b=2798

These Latin shorthand notes matched nearly sixty percent of the transcript's occasionally repeated "Caractors."

This only gives more credence to Darth J's earlier theory that the Nephites landed in ancient Rome.

This has, I think, pretty much killed, buried, and nailed the coffin shut on the idea the Nephites lived in the Americas, and then thrown the coffin into Mount Doom, before dropping Mt Doom under the continental plates.

Most interesting. Does anyone know if this issue has been addressed by the Church or an apologist?

To my knowledge, they have done the only safe thing: ignore it. The very concept of Irish monastic shorthand was a seed for the book. And Mitchill's and the Mack association just strengthens the argument.

MCB wrote:To my knowledge, they have done the only safe thing: ignore it. The very concept of Irish monastic shorthand was a seed for the book. And Mitchill's and the Mack association just strengthens the argument.

Thanks, MCB. I guess I am shocked that this huge, glaring problem has never been addressed by any apologist.

The odds that the similarities are just coincidental would be astronomically small.

When Martin Harris took a copy of the characters to "the learned" he first visited Samuel Mitchill. The same Samuel Mitchell who had examined the Detroit Manuscript from which these characters come. In the case of the Detroit MS characters, they were authentic short hand characters but it took a while for the learned to figure that out.

I don't believe it was a coincidence that Harris went to Mitchill before seeing Charles Anthon. Smith knew that there was a good chance Mitchill would remember these characters from the Detroit Manuscript and pronounce them genuine. But Mitchill refused to take the bait and instead sent Harris to see Anthon.

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Buffalo wrote:I was perusing Darth J's blog when I made the startling discovery:





From: http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/2000s/2001RBSt.htm
Darth's blog: http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/blo ... 958&b=2798

These Latin shorthand notes matched nearly sixty percent of the transcript's occasionally repeated "Caractors."

This only gives more credence to Darth J's earlier theory that the Nephites landed in ancient Rome.

This has, I think, pretty much killed, buried, and nailed the coffin shut on the idea the Nephites lived in the Americas, and then thrown the coffin into Mount Doom, before dropping Mt Doom under the continental plates.

Not so soon Brute! What both scripts have in common is that they are shorthand. A dot? A crossed line? A squiggle? An arrow point? What's a prophet to do? None of the complex glyphs show up. None of the picture glyphs show up either. This is a red herring.

Alphabet systems can speak vastly different languages and still manage the use of identical.
marks. And another faux tableau fails to fit the frame made to contain it.

What if lllllllll 7AT was merely a Roman grocery reminder of how much milk to get for the weekend?

Boy would we have a lot of ED ~ TAt on our face.

Roger wrote:When Martin Harris took a copy of the characters to "the learned" he first visited Samuel Mitchill. The same Samuel Mitchell who had examined the Detroit Manuscript from which these characters come. In the case of the Detroit MS characters, they were authentic short hand characters but it took a while for the learned to figure that out.

I don't believe it was a coincidence that Harris went to Mitchill before seeing Charles Anthon. Smith knew that there was a good chance Mitchill would remember these characters from the Detroit Manuscript and pronounce them genuine. But Mitchill refused to take the bait and instead sent Harris to see Anthon.

Yes, and the guy who discovered the Detroit Manuscript was a business partner to Stephen Mack, Joseph Smith's uncle and Oliver Cowdery's cousin.

Nightlion wrote:Not so soon Brute! What both scripts have in common is that they are shorthand. A dot? A crossed line? A squiggle? An arrow point? What's a prophet to do? None of the complex glyphs show up. None of the picture glyphs show up either. This is a red herring.

Alphabet systems can speak vastly different languages and still manage the use of identical.
marks. And another faux tableau fails to fit the frame made to contain it.

Yes, shorthand for Latin, a shorthand system developed thousands of years after the time of Nephi. I don't expect you to get it because you're mentally ill, but anyone thinking clearly can see what is going on here.