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Agnostic's viewpoint
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:43 pm
by _Buffalo
I was talking to an agnostic recently. In explaining his agnosticism, he said something like this:
"If there's a God, then he/she appears be apathetic to events in our universe. All events in our Universe can be explained with or without the existence of a God. Therefore, if there is a God, then that he/she/it has had no more impact than no God at all. To all appearances, any purported higher power is totally indifferent to our universe and everyone in it."
Obviously I agree, but what do you think about his conclusion? Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:46 pm
by _Chap
Buffalo wrote:... Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
That rather depends what you mean by 'explained', doesn't it? I can remember God being produced by the older generation as an excuse for not providing any further explanations.
Why should one not ask for an explanation of the explanation? I can't see why one should ever refrain from asking for more, so far as understanding is concerned.
Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:41 pm
by _stemelbow
Stem's wife say, "stem's magnificent caboose".
Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:55 pm
by _Some Schmo
Buffalo wrote: Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
No.
Of course, I don't think a supreme being explains anything any more than, "it's magic" explains anything. Either of those "explanations" sounds like code for, "How the hell do I know?"
Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:22 pm
by _Buffalo
Some Schmo wrote:Buffalo wrote: Is there anything out there that can ONLY be explained by some sort of supreme being/mystical force/whatever?
No.
Of course, I don't think a supreme being explains anything any more than, "it's magic" explains anything. Either of those "explanations" sounds like code for, "How the hell do I know?"
Indeed
Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:24 pm
by _Buffalo
stemelbow wrote:Stem's wife say, "stem's magnificent caboose".
I'm afraid we're going to need empirical evidence here, Stem.
Re: Agnostic's viewpoint
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:36 pm
by _beefcalf
Buffalo wrote:stemelbow wrote:Stem's wife say, "stem's magnificent caboose".
I'm afraid we're going to need empirical evidence here, Stem.
NO WE'RE NOT! NO WE'RE NOT!