Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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_daheshism
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Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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Dear Bishops,

I was told as a young Mormon that you were "common judges in Israel" and you had "the spirit of discernment". You KNEW as a right of office who was lying and telling the truth. Wow!

But, dear bishops....

*When I told you that Mark Hofmann was forging documents, was a liar and a fraud, you accused me of lying and/or being delusional. When it came out I was right, you said "That's neither here nor there".

*When I came to you saying that Mormon women and girls were sleeping with my roommates, again, you accused me of lying, but I wasn't lying.

*When I told you that a girl named Suzanne was playing danerous games with me, you called me a liar, or said her games were "innocent flirtation". But she played this game on a mission with a guy, who killed himself.

*When I told you that Ed Decker was telling everyone in Chile that Mormon missionaries were CIA agents, I said their lives were in danger. You laughed, and said they were under the Lord's protection. But, later six missionaries were killed. WHERE were the Lord's protection?

*You called me a "LIAR" or insinuated it, telling me that Mormon women never do anything sinful unless "forced to" by an evil male. Yet, I saw that Mormon women did sexual sins ALL THE TIME with some males, the more wicked males. They did not chase the morally worthy males. They chased the morally UNclean males. Just the opposite of what you told me. When this was proved, you tried to COVER IT ALL UP instead of admitting you were wrong.

Mormon bishops....HOW am I going to believe you have any Spirit from God? HOW am I going to believe ANYTHING you say? HOW am I going to have any respect for you at all? You are ignorant, self-righteous, DUPES! You are "clowns"....just like what my born-in-the-church Mormon friends told me.
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Re: Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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Either their integrity is forever damaged and they have since killed themselves or attempted suicide -or- they were welcomed back into the church with an empty empathetic or sympathetic hug and the subject is never to arise again.
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Re: Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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daheshism wrote:When I told you that Mark Hofmann was forging documents, was a liar and a fraud, you accused me of lying and/or being delusional.


Can you blame them?




Really?
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Note: If you write a letter to Mormon Bishops you'll need to send it to them directly. We don't forward.
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Re: Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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Have you been to a counselor or therapist?
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Joseph Antley wrote:Have you been to a counselor or therapist?

Is there a counselor or therapist that specializes in irrational beliefs in myths, such as religious constructs?
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Socrates wrote:
Joseph Antley wrote:Have you been to a counselor or therapist?

Is there a counselor or therapist that specializes in irrational beliefs in myths, such as religious constructs?


Nice oh-snap, but the OP's problems seem to be much bigger and personally-threatening than believing in irrational myths.
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Re: Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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Socrates wrote:Is there a counselor or therapist that specializes in irrational beliefs in myths, such as religious constructs?


Or scientific constructs?

Or any Human constructs at all?

We need a constructherapist, pronto!
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Re: Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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Joseph Antley wrote:
Socrates wrote:Is there a counselor or therapist that specializes in irrational beliefs in myths, such as religious constructs?


Nice oh-snap, but the OP's problems seem to be much bigger and personally-threatening than believing in irrational myths.


Understatement of the year.

Because your hangups are so glaringly obvious to everyone but yourself, darrick, you continually set yourself up for easy pot shots and armchair analysis. But you need more serious help than you can get on a message board.
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Re: Open Letter to Mormon Bishops

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consiglieri wrote:
daheshism wrote:When I told you that Mark Hofmann was forging documents, was a liar and a fraud, you accused me of lying and/or being delusional.


Can you blame them?




Really?


What I blame is knee jerk thoughtless sheeple like vehemenent defense of the Church, that is later shamelessly excused as, "Oh well I didn't know, you have no right to hold that against me because I thought I was right." I really hate when people vehemently tell me they are sure to the point that they get angry with me for doubting them in the least or not taking their word as the ultimate authority and view any further inquiry elsewhere as a personal attack. Then when it turns out that they were wrong, they're not even sorry about it. If you say you're sure, you better be sure. People do make these kind of belief demands a lot, not just in Church situations. It's almost as irritating to me as people who say they'll do something and then don't do it. Just say you can't do it or won't do it. Just say you don't know for sure, but don't be wrong. And if you are wrong, at least show some remorse.
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