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My young daughter has expressed to me two concerns which keep bugging her:

1. She doesn't think the Church should interfere with gay marriages outside the Church.

2. She says the Church is chauvinistic and that girls as well as boys should be able to hold the priesthood.

I haven't encouraged her or discouraged her when she shares these thoughts. They do seem normal for any 12 year old LDS girl who is naturally idealistic. Given time she may learn to either stifle these thoughts and be sweet and pure in a cookie-cutter fashion or keep her concerns and be a person true to her own innate sense of right and wrong.

Do you think the educational system is pumping our children's heads with notions of justice and fair play?

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The world is now a place where equality is one of the most actively persued principles.

In schools and colleges and workplaces around the world adults and children are taught that it is wrong to discriminate because of race, sex, physical ability, religion etc.

Mormonism has actively discriminated against people because of race (it still does).
Mormonism is actively discriminatory with regards to sex.

Any right minded thinking person (of any age) will see the descrapancy between how the world treats people and how Mormonism treats people.

moksha wrote:My young daughter has expressed to me two concerns which keep bugging her:

1. She doesn't think the Church should interfere with gay marriages outside the Church.

2. She says the Church is chauvinistic and that girls as well as boys should be able to hold the priesthood.

I haven't encouraged her or discouraged her when she shares these thoughts. They do seem normal for any 12 year old LDS girl who is naturally idealistic. Given time she may learn to either stifle these thoughts and be sweet and pure in a cookie-cutter fashion or keep her concerns and be a person true to her own innate sense of right and wrong.

Do you think the educational system is pumping our children's heads with notions of justice and fair play?

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This is pretty much what I was like at that age, so I'd say you should be highly concerned!

moksha wrote:
Do you think the educational system is pumping our children's heads with notions of justice and fair play?

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It has very little to do with justice and fair play since if she is attending school in the united states she is learning to be competitive, efficient, and productive. She is also learning to be individualistic in her attitude. And since she is being educated within the capitalist ideology, she is definitely not learning to be fair. Do you really believe that America is a country of justice and fairplay?

However she may be learning that there is no absolute truth but rather little truths that each individual may process. And it is these individual truths that must be respected as long as no one gets hurt. Thus her concern for same sex marriage.

jon wrote:The world is now a place where equality is one of the most actively persued principles.

In schools and colleges and workplaces around the world adults and children are taught that it is wrong to discriminate because of race, sex, physical ability, religion etc.

They are being taught that there is no absolute truth and that metanarratives no longer work. They are learning the 'wisdom' of postmodernity.

In this world of ours, equality is far from the radar. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and the so called middle class is doing what may to survive. No equality need apply.

why me wrote:

jon wrote:The world is now a place where equality is one of the most actively persued principles.

In schools and colleges and workplaces around the world adults and children are taught that it is wrong to discriminate because of race, sex, physical ability, religion etc.

They are being taught that there is no absolute truth and that metanarratives no longer work. They are learning the 'wisdom' of postmodernity.

In this world of ours, equality is far from the radar. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and the so called middle class is doing what may to survive. No equality need apply.

Interestingly the LDS Church instructs its youth not to intermarry with members of the opposite sex who are of a different race, different economic background, different educational background.

In other words it is LDS teaching that:
White's should only marry white's
Poor people should only marry poor people
Super brains should only marry super brains

As for your sorry tale about how you see your environment - I can only say that doesn't match mine.
My Non-Mormon children (and their friends and acquaintences) are far more integrated, tolerant and respectful of the rich variety of fellow humans without regard for race, sexuality, intellect, wealth, religion, disability etc than any Mormon I have ever come across (and I include myself in that).
As a result they are more balanced in their personalities and more of a positive influence in their communities.

I guess it's all about getting out what you put in.

moksha wrote:My young daughter has expressed to me two concerns which keep bugging her:

1. She doesn't think the Church should interfere with gay marriages outside the Church.

2. She says the Church is chauvinistic and that girls as well as boys should be able to hold the priesthood.

I haven't encouraged her or discouraged her when she shares these thoughts. They do seem normal for any 12 year old LDS girl who is naturally idealistic. Given time she may learn to either stifle these thoughts and be sweet and pure in a cookie-cutter fashion or keep her concerns and be a person true to her own innate sense of right and wrong.

Do you think the educational system is pumping our children's heads with notions of justice and fair play?

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I just needed to say I have the mind of a twelve year old girl. I feel much the same way.

stemelbow wrote: I just needed to say I have the mind of a twelve year old girl. I feel much the same way.

My wife told me I have the face of a twelve year old, and said I should give it back because I'm getting it all wrinkled.

Do you think the educational system is pumping our children's heads with notions of justice and fair play?

Public educational systems outside of LDS-dominated areas usually do. In LDS-dominated areas it they often do not. Depending on where you live, if you want your daughter to be educated with traditional LDS values, it might be best to send her to a LDS private school. That way, she can continue being sweet, and blame her rebellious attitudes on public education.

MCB wrote: Public educational systems outside of LDS-dominated areas usually do. In LDS-dominated areas it they often do not. Depending on where you live, if you want your daughter to be educated with traditional LDS values, it might be best to send her to a LDS private school. That way, she can continue being sweet, and blame her rebellious attitudes on public education.

Really? What about in the southern part of the united states? No LDS domination there. And what about in the midwest? And what is justice and equality in america and how are students learning it in the public schools?

And how are LDS values different from catholic values. Are you in favor of women holding the priesthood in the catholic church?