Mormons want to be a mainstream faith but its based on lies.

[Guest]

All mainstream religions; Catholocisim, Lutheran, Jewish, Islam, don't lie to give their faiths validity.

It seems that's what the Mormons do best is implementing lies as doctrine.

Their faith should not be accepted into the mainstream.

[_Scottie]

Wait... all religions are lies.

How can you say other religions don't lie? Hell, even talking about Noah's flood is a lie.

[_hatersinmyward]

Wait... all religions are lies.

How can you say other religions don't lie? Hell, even talking about Noah's flood is a lie.

Because the flood has not proven to be based upon something Joe's father told him or some crap he ripped off of Emanuel S.

Some of the Bible, Torra and Koran may be ancient folklore, but those texts cannot be put on the same platform as the Book of Mormon... If that's what you are suggesting?

[_Polygamy-Porter]

Noah's Ark explained: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk1owD9y1hc

[_bcspace]

It seems that's what the Mormons do best is implementing lies as doctrine.

No one's been able to find a lie in LDS doctrine.

[_Willy Law]

Some of the Bible, Torra and Koran may be ancient folklore, but those texts cannot be put on the same platform as the Book of Mormon... If that's what you are suggesting?

The New Testament rises to that level. Taught as literal history, when in fact it is anything but.

[_Scottie]

No one's been able to find a lie in LDS doctrine.

That's because very little is considered doctine.

[_bcspace]

No one's been able to find a lie in LDS doctrine.

That's because very little is considered doctine.

The Theology is highly systematic so by definition, there is quite a bit of doctrine.

[Guest]

All mainstream religions; Catholocisim, Lutheran, Jewish, Islam, don't lie to give their faiths validity.

It seems that's what the Mormons do best is implementing lies as doctrine.

Their faith should not be accepted into the mainstream.

Each of those mainstream religions you mention have been around longer. They each have centuries over Mormonism to have had their thornier parts filed down and smoothed over. Their respective apologists have had so much more time to denude them of offensive doctrines, leaving them with just a few nuggets of wisdom for how to live life, spiced with a few ancient myths. It's not a matter of them not lying. It is a matter of them not lying so much now. There was, for each of them, a time when they were like Mormonism, making up notions and cloaking them as doctrine. It's just that the era of Mormonism doing this is fresher, not completely closed--but coming near to it as evidenced by the fact that GCs come and go without anything new. Mormonism is no longer in the making doctrine, the living prophet stage that was rampant in the 19th Century. Now, Mormonism is trying to smooth over its rough edges, shuck off the difficult (like elohim was once a man as we are), and just be another do-right, feel-good Christian sect. Mormonism is no longer making doctrine from whole cloth, nor even deducing derivative doctrines from such. Doctrine is, for Mormonism, now receding. When the stalwarts feel too much is being lost, they will seek the establishment of a formal creed so that there will be something that remains into the future beyond that point in time. For example, that might be exactly what McConkie was attempting when he penned Mormon Doctrine.

[_bcspace]

Now, Mormonism is trying to smooth over its rough edges, shuck off the difficult (like elohim was once a man as we are), and just be another do-right, feel-good Christian sect.

Doesn't seem to be the case. Plural marriage is still a doctrine and a practice we don't apologize for and the Preisthood ban we don't apologize for either. At most, the Church is putting on a nice face (which is not a lie), but no doctrines are being changed or gotten rid of. Heck, even homosexuality is still a deep, dark sin.