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Three-"D"ing (Date, Dunk, Dump)

This is where Mormon women "date" a man just to get the missionaries to baptism him, and then they dump him. Inevitably, the man leaves the Church and becomes anti-Mormon, considering he has been deceived (and he has). He was never converted to the Church or Gospel, but rather he was coverted to the woman, in love and/or lust with her. He saw baptism as a "way" to please her, in order to get sex, continue sex, or because he was genuinely "in love" and wanted marriage. Saw this many...many times on and off my mission. Most of our investigators in my mission were "3-Ders". After a while, I refused to teach them.

Why Mormon 3-D: They will tell you they are just "trying to do their duty" as Mormon women, to win souls to the Church. In reality, 3-"D"ing is just another form of "Punish-by-Proxy".

Punish-by-Proxy

Basically, "nature" favors those males who are best at survival. Back during the Ice Ages, there was extreme cold and massive droughts and the human population go down to maybe 5,000 people. Nature (which is intelligent) favors "survival". Survival of the fittist. The "fittest" men are the most arrogant, dishonest, violent, "driven". We call them "Alpha-Males". Best at survival. Nature wants women, all women, to "mate" with Alpha Males, to produce even more Alpha Males. Good thing about Alphas...they are best at survival. Bad thing...they are immoral, dishonest, sneaky, violent, brutal, ruthless, adulterous, incestuous, selfish, greedy...everything women love in a man. Nature wants women to "mate" with such men because such men are best at survival, and Nature is all about "survival". So Nature provides Alpha Males with a pheromone that sexually excites women when they smell it. When they smell the pheromone the massive amount of Dopamene and other chemicals are released in the female brain which "turns them on". The same thing happens to males when they see a young healthy fit beatiful female NUDE...the same chemicals are released in their brains.

But, the females do NOT need to see an Alpha Male nude to get turned on. All she has to be is within a few feet of him, and she'll get "turned on" by his pheromones...thank you Nature! Even though the human population TODAY is in no crisis of dying out, nevertheless, Nature has not yet "turned off" that DNA gene that makes women go WILD for the Alpha Male pheromone. And...THEY DO GO WILD for it.

Of course, many scientists KNOW about this pheromone, and that is why products such as "AXE" and "ALPHA MALE" deorderants and sprays are on the market and marketed to men, making them believe that women are turned on by "smell". Women don't "think" they are turned on by smell, but they in fact ARE. They think they are "just in love" with certain men. They don't know why, they just "are". When the pheromones of an Alpha Male come into contact with the oilfactories of a female brain, the chemicals are released, and the females "falls in love" with the Alpha Male. And all females really believe they are truly "in love". And they are. "love" and "lust" are just chemical reactions in the brain.

This is not speculation, but fact. You may remember a scene in "Oceans 13" where Matt Damon is playing a character that tries to distract the female assistant of a casino owner played by Al Pacino. Damon takes out a tiny patch soached in alpha male hormone and pats it on his neck, and of course you can "see" the scent go into the nostrils of the gal, and she "falls in love" with Damon on the spot and immediately wants sex. This is no exaggeration! That's actually what happens.

So, all Alpha Males are "womanizers" because all females fall in love with them and want to give them sex, and the Alpha Males take it. Of course, this creates problems. Alpha Males in our modern society cannot marry all the females, so they had to use deception with females, making promises they can't keep and have no intention of keeping. Women feel "used" and "lied to" and are constantly put into "emotional devastation" by Alpha Males they fall in love with, the Alpha Males uses them for sex, then dumps them, the process is repeated ad infinitum. After two or three times, the females get ANGRY, and they want REVENGE. Upon whom? The next Alpha Males they meet. NO WAY! The next Alpha they meet they'll fall in love with, give them sex, and the entire process repeats itself.

No....women choose Omega Males to punish the Alpha Males. I call this "Punish-by-Proxy". The Omega Males are the "whipping boys"; the boy you punish by proxy. A "whipping boy" was the son of a servant that you punished because you couldn't punish the Lord's son, the guy who really did something to be punished. So, you punished the whipping boy...because "somebody" had to be punished for what the Lord's son did!

All males are either Alpha, Beta, or Omega. Alphas are the womanizers, all women fall in love with them. They are designated boffers. Betas are "normal" men who marry, have kids. Not womanizers, but normal. Omega Males are the "dumping ground". They are the ones that women "punish" for the horrible things Alpha Males do to them. Omega Males are the most honest, most caring, sensitive males. They are the WORST at survival. Nature does not favor them. Nature favors the strong, not the weak. Nature favors those best at survival.

In the Mormon Church, you have Alphas, and Betas, and Omegas. The Alphas have their pick of the women, have sex with whomever they want, then by 30 usually marry a sexy 20 year old, and have a good life in the Church "until" their wife finds out they are cheating (and they always do). They she divorces him, and marries another Alpha Male whose wife divorced HIM for cheating. Betas marry the less attractive women, but attractive enough. Omegas have a choice: the fat/ugly/old women NO MALE wants to mate with.....or nothing. Some choose nothing. That's what I chose.

Women often will "dump on" Omega Males, to "get back" at the Alpha Males who have "used" them and "dumped" them. The only difference is, women DO NOT want to give Omega Males sex then dump them. Women are turned off by the pheromones of Omega Males. Women want only to "emotionally destroy" Omega Males, because Alpha Males have emotionally destroyed them in the past...and somebody has to pay for that.

This "Punish-by-Proxy" is also called "Pulling the Rung". Women pretend to be romantically interested in you, but they are not. They want you to "fall in love" with them, then they PULL THE RUG. Why? They want to punish you...for the Alpha Males pulling the rug on them. YEs....single Mormon women DO THIS ALL THE TIME to Omega Males. If it's never happened to you, it means you are not an Omega Male, but an Alpha or Beta. Only about five per cent of males are Omega Males. You DO NOT want to be an Omega....believe me!

If you're an Omega Male Mormon, you have two choices: get AXE or ALPHA MALE deorderants and sprays and smother yourself with it, or GET RICH. This the only way you'll every marry an attractive Mormon women. Unfortunately, I am allergic to such sprays and deorderants. And, I'm never going to be rich. And, I'm never going to marry a fat woman. So...here I am. Single for life.

Conclusion: Mormon women are WOMEN....absolutely NO DIFFERENT from any other women. They are "fooled" by Nature (i.e. the pheromones) just like all women are. They FALL IN LOVE all the time with Alpha Males...just like all women do. They pull the same deceptive "games" as other women. They "Punish-by-Proxy" just like all women do. No difference whatsoever. And YES.....what I wrote is sadly the truth.

So which is the alpha, beta or omega?



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Honestly Daheshist, why not put your pheromone theory to the test. Go find an alpha male, let him borrow your shirt, and have him go jogging in it. Oh, and make sure he wears no deodorant. Then you put his shirt on and go to a singles dance and see if you get women begging to go home with you.

I think that psychology might play a bigger role in mate selection than smell. If a guy has a sub conscious grudge against women for rejecting him all his life then maybe that will manifest itself. Women catch the vibes and avoid the guy. Here are some other suggestions other than borrowing a friend's perspiration:

1) Take a couple of your nieces or nephews to the park in a Saturday, or go to a mall. Women are attracted to men with kids -- after all, it proves his sperm are functional as well as his dedication to being a good dad. In fact, I will bet this has lured more than one gal to join a Mormon fundamentalist sect. If a guy has devotion to a tribe of kids then you get the point.

2) Get in shape. Women want their offspring to be healthy. If they see you are a candidate for a heart attack they will avoid you.

3) Be creative. Can really compensate if you are not rich. Women LOVE Jack Sparrow, they hate Alan Parker.

4) Have something interesting to talk about.

I find your analysis to be interesting, but off by quite a bit.

First thing I would do is talk. Women love to talk. Learn to talk to women. Learn what makes them tick, why they like certain things, why they fear other things.

My experience with dating and women is that many (or most?) women don't know exactly what they want. Generally speaking women who don't know exactly what they want are still searching. This type of person can appear to be interested in you at first, and then not so much later, as they discover something they don't like, but won't tell you about it. Dating is a difficult process, for sure.

First, you don't want a woman who is looking for a rich guy, or who is focused on the external "things" you can provide. A woman of that type is immature and you will end up raising a child who doesn't want to grow up. So, thinking that these Alpha Males got it all going on, is in error. They are miserable, and don't know how to have a real relationship with a woman.

The key to finding the "right" woman, is to understand that all relationships are based on authenticity. If either party isn't honest with themselves first and others second, then no real relationship is possible. In the dating process, there has to be "chemistry" or attraction of course, but relationships go much deeper than that. You have to be *yourself* and accept the other person for who they are. Many people think that if they actually let people know who they are, authentically, then they would be rejected, and as a result, they don't let that real person out. This is a error that will hurt yourself, because ultimately you realize you aren't loved for who you are, but who you projected yourself to be.

So, be authentic, and look for someone who is both attractive to you and authentic as well.

Third thing I would do is find someone who has the same interests as you do. Whether it's skiing or shooting turkeys, or bowling or what have you.

Stay away from women.

Can you write up a post, "games LDS men play with fat women"?

So you bitch and moan that hot LDS women won't go out with you, but you REFUSE to date anything but a perfect 10???? Really??

I see this all the time. Guys that sit and cry because they "can't find a girlfriend". When you dig down, their criteria for what they will date is so incredibly unrealistic that it makes me laugh.

There are thousands of LDS women that would date you. They just aren't up to you impossible standards. So knock it off with the stupid alpha male BS.

I can tell you right now that I am nowhere CLOSE to an alpha male, and I have a H O T wife. She was even the prom queen! Why? Because I know how to talk to women. I'm funny, witty, charming, etc. I don't come in and club women over the head. That doesn't work, and if it does, STAY AWAY from that kind of woman!! They are crazy!

Scottie wrote: I don't come in and club women over the head. That doesn't work, and if it does, STAY AWAY from that kind of woman!! They are crazy!

One time a girl told me (looked exactly like Taylor Swift) that she really wanted to makeout with me when I was mean to her but when I was nice to her the attraction left. I thought that was pretty messed up and decided not to do anything with her anymore.

Who knew that throwing a cookie back at her that she made for me would turn this girl on.

by the way the only reason I wasn't nice to her was because she wasn't a very nice person. She was a typical blonde stereotype as well.

Scottie wrote:I'm funny, witty, charming, etc. !

CFR

MrStakhanovite wrote:CFR

LOL

Good point... I should re-phrase to say I *can* be... or, so I've been told.

So, thinking that these Alpha Males got it all going on, is in error.

I couldn't agree more. It stands to reason that the more attractive a woman is, the bigger bitch she is. Yes there are plenty of fat and ugly women who are crappy in relationships as well, at least once they get the leverage to be so. But in general, uglier women know what it's like to be the loser in the game of love and I've found them easier to get along with. I don't like high maitenance chicks regardless of how the look. For me they're just not worth it. Other men may feel differently. But that's been my experience.

True were the words of the bathroom grafiti vandlaist, "Remember, that no matter how good she looks, some other man is already sick and tired of putting up with her crap."

Being an alpha male isn't all fun and games you know. It's hard work having to turn down the scores of women begging for your time. Also, I have to buy lots of underwear since girls are always stealing them to get a whiff of my pheromones. Even worse than women (or the underwear gnomes) stealing my undies is when I see someone like Darrick try to steal my underwear. I mean, I get that he wants my pheromones, but there are some lines guys just shouldn't cross.

I've told Darrick that if he wants to be lucky at love she should try being a woman. I've even volunteered to help pay for the medical operation. Then Darrick could learn first hand how to be attractive to a woman. He could also practice being rude to alpha males while making himself more attractive and kind to omegas--since he has deep sympathy for them.

One last thing Darrick should know about being an Alpha male. When you're an alpha, you don't even have to watch diet and exercise since the pheromones will hijack a woman's will making her putty in her arms. Why, if I wanted to I could even go for days without showering or brushing my teeth just like Darrick and women would still swarm around me. I could even drop diet and exercise if I wanted to except that all the women keep me up on exercise--if you catch my drift (wink, wink).