Heavenly Mother is still married.
For all we know, Mary is now an independent woman!
:)
Main difference between HM and Mary
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Re: Main difference between HM and Mary
Would LDS church leaders be willing to accept a post-mortal Mary who decided not to wed the man we sealed her to? Would it be a surprise to us to learn that she exercised her free agency, walked away from a celestial marriage, and now lives in fulfilling devotion and service to the frightened and the weary? Would it bother powerful men of the Beehive cloth to find someone else at the judgment bar to meet them?
What if the 12 Apostles of your own dispensation weren't there to greet you with a hearty, gripping hand shake, a deep chuckle, and a pat on the back? What if there was no cherry wood desk, no post mortal clerk, no book of life recordings, no keys of priesthood? What if Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all their chums had left for a season, nowhere to be found?
What if the hand that reached through the veil was that of a woman's?
Would it bother the architects of a patriarchal, hierarchal religious institution to learn that Mary, the mother of Jesus was an independent woman? Would it bother them to learn than despite our efforts to keep her married, she walked away from it all?
The post mortal Mary hopes to make an inroads with the LDS Church. Someday, she might.
What if the 12 Apostles of your own dispensation weren't there to greet you with a hearty, gripping hand shake, a deep chuckle, and a pat on the back? What if there was no cherry wood desk, no post mortal clerk, no book of life recordings, no keys of priesthood? What if Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all their chums had left for a season, nowhere to be found?
What if the hand that reached through the veil was that of a woman's?
Would it bother the architects of a patriarchal, hierarchal religious institution to learn that Mary, the mother of Jesus was an independent woman? Would it bother them to learn than despite our efforts to keep her married, she walked away from it all?
The post mortal Mary hopes to make an inroads with the LDS Church. Someday, she might.
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Re: Main difference between HM and Mary
For all we know, Mary is now an independent woman!
I think most LDS would assume she is sealed to Joseph.
Would LDS church leaders be willing to accept a post-mortal Mary who decided not to wed the man we sealed her to?
Sure. But who did we seal her to?
Would it be a surprise to us to learn that she exercised her free agency, walked away from a celestial marriage, and now lives in fulfilling devotion and service to the frightened and the weary?
Sure. But people have their choice. In the process of divorce, my own father speculated about people who choose not to marry and are still Celestial. Varying degrees in the CK tell us this is so.
Would it bother powerful men of the Beehive cloth to find someone else at the judgment bar to meet them?
Doubt it. King David himself has lost his exaltation according to the scriptures and he himself produced scripture.
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
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Re: Main difference between HM and Mary
I wonder if Heavenly Mother ever found out about god's affair with Mary. If so, I bet she was pissed and thought about getting even by doing it with Satan in Vegas. Maybe that's where demons come from.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
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Re: Main difference between HM and Mary
quark wrote:Heavenly Mother is still married.
For all we know, Mary is now an independent woman!
:)
Well, I'm Catholic so I definitely don't believe in a Heavenly Mother the way LDS do. But if I were LDS I would be willing to at least consider that a pre-existent Mary could have been the mother of Jesus' pre-existent spirit. No LDS would ever accept that, but paraphrasing LeGrand Richards from A Marvelous Work and a Wonder when a Protestant minister said he didn't believe that God had a wife, Richards retorted, "He had a Son didn't He?" That seems to indicate that at least LeGrand Richards figured Mary was the wife of Heavenly Father.
Since LDS don't really know how "spirit children" are created there is a whole lot of room for speculation. LDS don't really know anything at all about Heavenly Mother even when they claim she exists.