Book of Mormon - true account or false mw?

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Book of Mormon - true account or false mw?

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All,

Last night on the plane home, I was reading an article an article in Philosophy Now about Nietzsche (a beginner article, no doubt) and is spoke of 'redemption', and how a deity should never burden humanity with a gift that is too much to receive. That in mind, is the Book of Mormon a true account, or a false mw?

Thoughts?

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Re: Book of Mormon - true account or false mw?

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Teaching mw this semester has brought up some similar issues. I'm not sure if they are exactly analogous to your opposition, LDST, but the question of narrative closure also touches on the same set of ideas. We've been reading epistolary novels, so that's how the question has arisen in my class discussions.
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The last time I encountered an mw was very disturbing for me. Based on that experience alone I would not be able to freely choose if the Book of Mormon is a false mw or not.

This is a great topic. I look forward to seeing what others feel on the topic.
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I had an mw once, but the wheels fell off.
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LDSToronto wrote:All,

Last night on the plane home, I was reading an article an article in Philosophy Now about Nietzsche (a beginner article, no doubt) and is spoke of 'redemption', and how a deity should never burden humanity with a gift that is too much to receive. That in mind, is the Book of Mormon a true account, or a false mw?

Thoughts?

H.


LDST,

I must confess and openly so, that I find your post more than disingenous, in light of the fact that mw is not yet a fully formed concept in either philosophical or literary circles. It is skeptics such as yourself who taint the discussion when in point of fact, I doubt you would ever be willing to put Nietzche's own "Thus spake Zarathustra" up to such a test as you are the Book of Mormon. When you are ready to come forth with a self honest assessment of the much idolized Nietzche, I will be more willing to engage.

And not a moment sooner.

Such hubris, LDST.
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malkie wrote:I had an mw once, but the wheels fell off.


Might I suggest that you allow (for once) an intellectually honest discussion to take place on this board? It's obvious that you have no concept of the importance of mw however, I would ask you kindly to please bow out and let us unpack the topic and related subtopics that are bound to emerge much to the delight of skeptics who believe that theists are unfamiliar with their ill conceived efforts to "best" believers on this board.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
LDSToronto wrote:All,

Last night on the plane home, I was reading an article an article in Philosophy Now about Nietzsche (a beginner article, no doubt) and is spoke of 'redemption', and how a deity should never burden humanity with a gift that is too much to receive. That in mind, is the Book of Mormon a true account, or a false mw?

Thoughts?

H.


LDST,

I must confess and openly so, that I find your post more than disingenous, in light of the fact that mw is not yet a fully formed concept in either philosophical or literary circles. It is skeptics such as yourself who taint the discussion when in point of fact, I doubt you would ever be willing to put Nietzche's own "Thus spake Zarathustra" up to such a test as you are the Book of Mormon. When you are ready to come forth with a self honest assessment of the much idolized Nietzche, I will be more willing to engage.

And not a moment sooner.

Such hubris, LDST.


Hubris? MW indeed...

H.
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LDST
Hubris? MW indeed...

H.



It is just as I expected. You are unwilling to put your own skeptical underpinnings up for examination on this board. Are you so unwilling to put your idol, no, your god Nietzche's head on the intellectual chopping block in terms of mw as you are that of Joseph Smith?

I think not.

mw, either false or authentic, is not something an intellectual hack such as yourself should be touting in public for the sole purpose of maligning LDS on this board.
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by the way, it's not Nietzsche I care about - he's only the catalyst for this thought. It's the notion that a deity is not a 'good' deity if said deity creates mw by making a gift to humanity that humanity is ill-equipped to receive.

Hence, the question, true or false?

H.
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Re: Book of Mormon - true account or false mw?

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Jersey Girl wrote:LDST
Hubris? MW indeed...

H.



It is just as I expected. You are unwilling to put your own skeptical underpinnings up for examination on this board. Are you so unwilling to put your idol, no, your god Nietzche's head on the intellectual chopping block in terms of mw as you are that of Joseph Smith?

I think not.

mw, either false or authentic, is not something an intellectual hack such as yourself should be touting in public for the sole purpose of maligning LDS on this board.


Oh please, Jersey Girl, read a book - Smith is as much a Nietzschean prototype as Ribot ever was! Hanging one, one hangs the other.

H.
"Others cannot endure their own littleness unless they can translate it into meaningfulness on the largest possible level."
~ Ernest Becker
"Whether you think of it as heavenly or as earthly, if you love life immortality is no consolation for death."
~ Simone de Beauvoir
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