Why I Succeed and Mormons Fail Spiritually

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Why I Succeed and Mormons Fail Spiritually

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A certain poster (if he wants to say whom so be it) puzzled with me over how impossible it was for him to make contact and have a spiritual experience. This has rested upon the back burner for a couple of days now. This is very much the same as so many others who USED to believe and now have doubts and disbelieve all together.

Americans in general have a high expectation of success. Mormons excel at this and have taken a sense of accomplishment as a given from the Get Go. Gentiles in particular we can class as a group who prize this fundamental above all else. When such are engaged in religion they tend to be fierce that whatever their persuasion it is as good as any and better than most. Except of course, Mormons, who KNOW that they are better than all the world.

This mindset is not lost on children coming up in the LDS faith. A chosen generation, a royal priesthood, the valiant, specifically saved for the Last Days.
The problem this creates for anyone who gets serious about spiritual progress in seeking to attain certain known degrees of righteousness is that the mindset is utterly, wholly, unalterably, and consistently a major corruption that not just inhibits progress it kills is dead as a doornail. The Lord cannot open the door and welcome in hypocrisy. It was the same evil that killed the Lord of Lights.

I see the collateral damage and wicked bruises and open wounds that are not closed or mollified in all the sad language spoken often times here on MD. How did this great calamity occur? Why is it left to fester and spoil so many young and energetic lives, hopes, and fond faith with God?

A young man or woman seeks for a season to have what to do with God while the day lasts and the light shines upon their innocent faith and expectations. The days sour and years roll by and nothing is realized. More strident hypocrisy is one solution, and a vigorous denial and loathing of having wasted all is more disillusion. The same fierce mindset remains in both. Flint faced to the end in the riveted sense of self worth above all.

There is hardly a dime's worth of difference between the two camps. The new non-believer is a certain as still are the believers that each in their way is the ONLY TRUTH.

NOW imagine a young man who grows up in the LDS Church who CANNOT accept the broad mindset common in the LDS Church. Good and plenty are the reasons why, but the weakness is ingrained within every fiber of a young man's being. HE KNOWS that he counts for nothing and is less than the dust of the earth. He cut his teeth on it everyday. He has no identity with righteousness, and expects only a lowly end. In fact the idea that he might have worth is a most painful notion to tease. IF he had worth then all the torture would be utterly unjust and nothing could reconcile him to it. He cannot be loved as that would make it worse and not better. Thus concluded the young and immature mind of a child. Never mind that he somehow invented a love of charity (given) just so it might exist. Looking for the eyes of love constantly, he heals himself to some degree by leaching off the kindness of neighbors.

A seed gets planted a time or two before he finishes High School. He begins to think of God in a new way as if there might be the slightest chance to be loved by him and have this crippling weakness taken from off his bones. He sets his mind a wondering.

Unlike the usual Mormon who goes from a warranted sense of worth forward expecting to add righteousness to righteousness and improve until a bright and shining day dawns and he is wondrously glorified before the Lord in his heart, rather, the broken-hearted one struggles in his wrestle with the Lord to be be in any wise found acceptable to stand before the Lord. He separates utterly from all other considerations of the world and stays upon this one hope for righteousness to open unto him. Once done THEN he adds line upon line and precept upon precept. Done right. Build right-Start right!

Notice the BIG difference? The Mormons own righteousness before they even begin. Whereas the meek and broken-hearted own NO righteousness and give all to open the door TO righteousness that they might know the Lord.

That's it. In preaching up their own worthy righteousness the LDS ( and a world of folly) have ruined any chance of ever getting it. Then all the baneful effects rain down and keep them scurrying about to find shelter here and warmth there. Everywhere is a phantom end.

How do you break the crown of pride that the people have owned as a birthright since ever? This is the solution dears. If you can retro-fit to a state where you own NO righteousness and will do the first works of SEEKING to enter the kingdom rather than hypocritically pretending to already be there a good and drawing hope may return. Certainly, it is the only way God will open to any.

Not that the Lord refuses to see every simple day we live. He notices the sparrows fall and us too regardless how messed up we are. He can be sowing seeds all along the way for us to notice and nurture and wonder and ponder and seek a blossom and bud to it. And now you know how. Back all the way out from pride and ownership of any degree of worthiness and righteousness and come at it one more time.

If the Restoration ever did get it right and were accomplished in competent righteousness they would be very careful not to spoil their children with foolish encouragements that can only set them up to fail and canker their souls and rot faith out of existence.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all did it right once already. Bla, bla, bla, phooey.

Work it right and the same results will follow as all scripture witness.
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Re: Why I Succeed and Mormons Fail Spiritually

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Nightlion wrote:If the Restoration ever did get it right and were accomplished in competent righteousness they would be very careful not to spoil their children with foolish encouragements that can only set them up to fail and canker their souls and rot faith out of existence.


That's a big IF.

And I love it when you talk about pride, what with Joseph's pride problem and all.
(Nevo, Jan 23) And the Melchizedek Priesthood may not have been restored until the summer of 1830, several months after the organization of the Church.
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Re: Why I Succeed and Mormons Fail Spiritually

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harmony wrote:
Nightlion wrote:If the Restoration ever did get it right and were accomplished in competent righteousness they would be very careful not to spoil their children with foolish encouragements that can only set them up to fail and canker their souls and rot faith out of existence.


That's a big IF.

And I love it when you talk about pride, what with Joseph's pride problem and all.


Yeah, that's a big 10-4 there harmony.
Joseph did not get the gospel up to Zion speed.
Never got on the road.
Could not get over the pitfalls of Gentile pride.
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